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I agree, Arafat made a lot of mIstakes. And as walrus stated Obama has saId some things that didn't add up.
Slim, regarding your previous post about Bloomberg and the Iraq oil production I still haven't researched it but if memory serves me correct the oil is in the Kurdish stronghold areas which were rather well put together when Saddam wasn't bombing them. Is that part of the story to your knowledge, I forget where that post was @SlimTrae
About 20% of the oil is in Kurdish areas but these fiels are mostly used up now and won't produce much in the future. Almost all Iraq's oil is in the Shiite south and this oil has hardly been developed at all. It's the biggest undeveloped oil region on the planet by a country mile, there's a hundred and fifty trillion dollars under the ground there. This used to be owned by Saddam's Sunnis and now the Shiites(and Shiite Iran) control it and the Sunnis are eating dust. Can you see why they're so pissed off now?
Well slim posted a link about Bloomberg reporting rapid increase in current Iraqui oil production levels. Not so much about untapped stuff.
You are correct in that the Kurdish region is where a lot oil has come from and bloomberg gave the results.
But not about regions still untapped.
I am under the impression that the old Al Queada (ISIS) is maneuvering to take the untapped regions.

George Bush Jr invading Iraq has unleashed a problem that can't be solved.
No way does this get fixed militarily.


With Obama it is non stop hemorrhaging. If we had Paul...he said pull out. So a non stop blood bath occurs under his presidency. His son has kind of flip flopped, so he'd be Obama II.
Jeb or Cruz, Fiorina or Rubio would bankrupt us with continued military presence like we have in Korea and Vietnam. Difference is 50 years later our troops in Korea aren't fighting to keep rival sects, insurgents and jihadist out.

I think the stupidest thing is how some attribute this to Islam, alone.
Since The Baathist coup in 1963 was sanctioned by the CIA in order to isolate Nasser, destroy the move towards Arab unity and control of Iraqi oil from the Iraqi people. The Secretary-General of the Baath proudly boasted, “We came to power on a CIA train

40 years ago Arab world’s great poet, Saadi Youssef wrote: Which country have you come to now? Here, you will open a door to a torture chamber. And one day in a garden you will see your arms, your eyes, or your speeding heart.”

Then add on Sunni/Shia differences of how Islam should be taught (blood line of the prophet) or by those who followed him. Then add on how WWI.. carved up the Ottoman empire.
Then add on..
Revolutionaries for and against communism. ....removing Saddam under a lie as stated by neocon Paul Wolfowitz..
Validated with the war drum of my God is bigger than your god-challenge..
When LT. General Boykin told Muslims, God put American president Bush Jr in power to fight you..

Add on the secret Dick Cheney Energy Task Force meetings where Iraq maps were drawn according to untapped oil reserves and not according to regions of people.

Add on an Iraqi constitution conceived by the interim government under the watchful eye of Paul Bremer (non Iraqi) fashioned to include PSA production servicec agreements that allowed oil corporations virtual immunity to a vast amount of oil.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_oil_law_(2007)

Sending in troops to bypass munitions dump, fuck securing...the BOARDER.. but...secure oil fields.
Debatthify the government, educators, scientists,

Removing Saddam from power...and the way it was done...is the most stupidest evil vile fucked up act any government has ever done.
In the history of this planet.