Can you imagine what Riddick Bowe would do to Joe Louis?

[Vendettos]

Although Louis was big for the times, he would still look like a super middle weight next to Bowe.

I think Bowe stops him in devastating fashion.

[bradlee180]

Size appears to be folks' primary concern, but Bowe's sole loss (which also happened in Bowe's prime) was to Holyfield who was basically the same size as Joe Louis. Same height, same weight. Except Joe is one of the hardest punchers in Boxing history, and Holyfield never had a Heavyweight punch. Holy was a good combination puncher, Louis was a better combination puncher...and with harder punches.
Joe was fundamentally sound, one of the best schooled, textbook fighters there's ever been, whereas Holyfield fought off-balance a helluva lot.

Bowe was damn good for a short time, and had wonderful physical attributes, and was a fantastic inside fighter considering he was so tall with those long arms. He was also psychologically unsound and lacked discipline.
6'5", 235 lbs was about his best weight, 246 or more was too heavy for him.

Joe Louis decimated big men like:
6' 4", 254 lb Abe Simon
6' 5½", 260 lb Primo Carnera
6' 4 ½" 220 lb Jorge Brescia
6' 6½", 250 lb Buddy Baer

Smaller, faster, speedier guys gave Louis more trouble to catch up with them as they skedaddled around the ring away from him. I think a prime Joe Louis would knock out a prime Riddick Bowe, but it'd be a great fight, probably go 11 rds maybe.

[Max Power]

Size appears to be folks' primary concern, but Bowe's sole loss (which also happened in Bowe's prime) was to Holyfield who was basically the same size as Joe Louis. Same height, same weight. Except Joe is one of the hardest punchers in Boxing history, and Holyfield never had a Heavyweight punch. Holy was a good combination puncher, Louis was a better combination puncher...and with harder punches.
Joe was fundamentally sound, one of the best schooled, textbook fighters there's ever been, whereas Holyfield fought off-balance a helluva lot.

Bowe was damn good for a short time, and had wonderful physical attributes, and was a fantastic inside fighter considering he was so tall with those long arms. He was also psychologically unsound and lacked discipline.
6'5", 235 lbs was about his best weight, 246 or more was too heavy for him.

Joe Louis decimated big men like:
6' 4", 254 lb Abe Simon
6' 5½", 260 lb Primo Carnera
6' 4 ½" 220 lb Jorge Brescia
6' 6½", 250 lb Buddy Baer

Smaller, faster, speedier guys gave Louis more trouble to catch up with them as they skedaddled around the ring away from him. I think a prime Joe Louis would knock out a prime Riddick Bowe, but it'd be a great fight, probably go 11 rds maybe.

"Holyfield was basically the same size as Joe Louis" - No bradlee, Holyfield was a 215lb steroid pumped super athlete with no bodyfat. Louis was a skinny/fat 205lb actual CW sized fighter.

"Joe is one of the hardest punchers in history and Holyfield never had a HW punch" - true Holy never had a HW punch. But Joe would not have been able to punch anywhere near as hard as Holyfield and probably would not rate in the top 100 HW boxers of all time in power!

Holy was a better combination puncher than Louis and hit harder, and faster, and pretty much did everything to the letter better than Louis.

Joe Louis had great technique against the criteria of his opposition, he was ahead of his time. Holyfield's was much better. As are many, many boxers since Louis. Obviously!

Your description of Bowe was accurate.

Joe Louis decimated the listed big men because they were absolute rubbish! Nothing more.

Smaller men giving Louis more trouble was a sign that the big men had no skills back then, Bowe was obviously not the same mould as that.

Thinking Louis would KO a guy the size and skill of Bowe the likes he never seen when he couldn't even KO all of his own piss weak opponents and considering Bowe was never knocked out entire career against better and much more powerful opponents is beyond laughable.

You should stop thinking and just listen.

And you have just exposed yourself as a complete fool!

[Master]

Max for the last time, because you really are getting on my tits, size does not matter ask your wife.

Champions are made because they dominated their time and showed their greatness by being consistent. Joe Louis is a heavyweight great Bowe will never be. He had the potential but blew it and that is his own fault. Who cares if he fought Joe now or Bowe fought then, there are too many variables to take into consideration. On any given day anything can happen because this is boxing and a left hook from Louis could certainly knock down Bowe.

Get over yourself and your obsession with size.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Max for the last time, because you really are getting on my tits, size does not matter ask your wife.

Champions are made because they dominated their time and showed their greatness by being consistent. Joe Louis is a heavyweight great Bowe will never be. He had the potential but blew it and that is his own fault. Who cares if he Joe fought now or Bowe fought then, there are too many variables to take into consideration. On any given day anything can happen because this is boxing and a left hook from Louis could certainly knock down Bowe.

Get over yourself and your obsession with size.

Master my man, I would like to make a formal introduction of Max Power.. he may not be a friend of ours yet, but he's now a friend of mine and I would like for you guys to get along.

You too, Max Power.. Master has been a friend of mine for awhile now and this guy is legit.. he's a made member of this thing of ours.

As Finito disappears into the dark room in a three piece Armani...

[Max Power]

Alright I'll drop it for now, enuf is enuf!! (y)

[brocktonblockbust]

Will the Giants 6 foot 5 Bowe be able to hammer out the brown bomber. Or will the brown bomber have more success against bowe than the real deal Holyfield had?

[mikeeod]

Different era. Louis is probably the second greatest heavyweight ever. That being said, a modern behemoth like Bowe would likely be too big and too much for Joe to overcome.

[Master]

If Joe Louis was around 1990's he would have been bigger and stronger and the punches that Holyfield landed would have stopped Bowe.

If Bowe lived in the 40's he would have been a skinny runt who would have been slaughtered by Joe.

[mikeeod]

If Joe Louis was around 1990's he would have been bigger and stronger and the punches that Holyfield landed would have stopped Bowe.

If Bowe lived in the 40's he would have been a skinny runt who would have been slaughtered by Joe.

Joe was phenomenal when it came to punching technique, and punching power. His short punches were similar to Bruce Lee's one inch punch, where they almost defied the laws of physics to be able to generate so much force in so little time/distance. Joe also was an excellent jabber.

While I agree with your point on how each would be affected by swapping eras, the two major factors that I see remaining constant are Joes limited lateral movement/foot speed, and his lack of height/length. I feel those factors would always hurt Joe (style vs style) against guys like Bowe, Holmes, Ali...etc. Not saying Joe stood no chance, because the guy is an ATG who can PUNCH. Just saying, it would be very difficult to overcome a guy like Bowe.

[mrbig1]

With todays diet,drugs, and training we are talking about a 225 Louis. He would be hard to beat. I have never seen a HW that can put big shots together as fast or as hard as Joe Louis.

[El Kabong]

Joe Louis by early to mid round KO....he punched harder than Holyfield given his record. Bowe was too willing to give up his height and reach and in doing so he was easy to hit....bad news for ANY Louis opponent.




But hell I don't get a say....it only matters what ross says

[red fox]

Bowe had the heaviest jab in history! Human teeth where embedded in the leather of the glove. Louis was a come at you fighter so he would've eaten a lot of jabs, then there was the famed uppercut left hook combination by Bowe don't be surprised if he knocked Louis out.

[Master]

Bowe had the heaviest jab in history! Human teeth where embedded in the leather of the glove. Louis was a come at you fighter so he would've eaten a lot of jabs, then there was the famed uppercut left hook combination by Bowe don't be surprised if he knocked Louis out.

True but Bowe did take unnecessary shots and Louis could hit hard with short, sharp shots of his own.

[El Kabong]

Joe Louis would be the biggest puncher Bowe ever fought by a mile!