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First. Canada has close to 40 million people not 14 million.
Second. Mediocrity has failed and nothing can be clearer than that givin the last 50 years or 4000 depending how far you want to trace the guts of these problems.
Third. Because mediocrity and eternal bombing and interventions have failed imo my country either has to go all in humanitarian or do nothing. Either go in that way or let them fall and fail on their own.
Fourth. Some of these countries simply cannot function w/o a brutal dictator. Thats simply an empirical fact. Unfortunately these people are the Wests best buffer against those who still live in the 5th century and think that way.
Fifth. France has the biggest Muslim population in Europe and Belgium the second. The trouble with these countries is that they dont really allow these people to assimilate. So this radicalization we all wonder about is right there.
Sixth. There are about a million Syrians in Germany Brock so the cat is already out of the bag and that's in a country the size of a large donut.

Finally. Anonymous has done more to screw over these people in 2 weeks that the most powerful military's have done in 20 years.
About 50 years ago we should have stopped; up tp 1979 we should have stopped. But we, the US, created, funded and trained the monster of "radical Islam." That has grown out of hand.
it needs to be handled. In 1985 that would have been simple; kill a few thousand. Now I think it is exterminate two billion....or live in fear all the time, every place.


The Usa imo gets blamed way to much for problems that started centuries ago my friend. They may be responsible in part for its eternal nature but the seeds were sown before America ever existed. Its just that today they are the most powerful and have been and continue to be the one expected to solve the worlds problems. By extension of course they are then blamed for not finding a solution or when things get out of control. Sure they have made matters worse in some areas but the thing is nobody else ever does anything. I'm one of the first to blame them but history itself is to blame and that includes a lot of players.

Bush made a tactical and moral error by reacting the way he did after 911 but the problems between Shia and Sunni have existed since Iraq and Syria were born and they are the two oldest civilizations on earth. The West gave birth to Isis but the core problems have been there forever. We tend to focus on the present and really these things have been brewing in modern times since before the birth of our grandparents.

I'm not blaming Britain either but there was a time when their empire covered 1 fourth of the worlds land mass or something like 14 million square miles. In 1875 they purchased Egypt's interest in the Suez canal because it was a gateway to India. The industrial revolution had not even started yet.

What followed was the Anglo-Egyptian war of 1882 over debts with Britain taking over the country. Following that the Ottoman Empire was split apart in 1915. A short time later they financed the Great Arab Revolt in 1916 with a secret agreement with Russia getting involved.

The Sykes-Picot agreement parceled out the oil properties dividing them with France after WW1. It's when the "we know whats best for them" western mentality started. Its been a hundred years of thinking that by all of us in the west now and nothing has changed. It appears they dont want to socially evolve according to our scales.

The problem now is that there seems to be a growing resentment over what the west has done in the past and a real rage about us continuing to do so. And sadly they are winning. 24/7 coverage of every event. How about we choose not to cover it instead? The news media acting like the body count is a quarterback stat. How about not mentioning the deaths? Cities shutting down with a random fart causing absolute hysteria. The politics of pure fear.

I dont know what the solution is but somebody needs to flip the script.

Well, that was a tad long winded my friend