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No mi hermano mio, tu sabes que te quiero mucho pero yo tambien necessito estar NO acuerdo con estos puntos: YOURE putting the focus in the wrong place. The focus is NOT on what the evil whites did to the blacks. We all know that. Anybody who denies that is blind as a bat. The focus is on how and why a black man who championed himself as a spokesperson and do-gooder for black rights would go and defame/insult/hurt the feelings of fellow blacks during that very disturbing racist time of the 60s. That is the focus. Joe Frazier didnt need any EXTRA BULLSHIT from people more than what he was already getting, etc... To say Ali didnt do anywhere NEAR the damage that whites did is a totally separate argument. Of course ali didnt do anywhere near the damage that racist whites did. But who the hell was ever claiming THAT? That is a IMHO silly point to make. The focus here is on Ali and what HE did, not comparing what Ali did to what whites did.!!

As for my Rocco Marcheggiano, I would rout for him everytime he would have fought Ali. And I still say his awkward style would have proven far more challenging to Muhammad than it looks at first glance.


Here's the thing, my good friend. Ali insulted certain black opponents, most notably Frazier. But he also insulted white opponents as well. And we're talking about boxing opponents. Out of the ring Ali championed his right to equality as a human being. Didn't he have that famous quote about the Viet Cong never calling him "nigger" when all the controversy regarding his refusal to be drafted? People may not have liked him very much.... but he had a very good point. Haters never really sat down to listen to him when he addressed groups away from the glare of the boxing ring. He talked to college kids, and other groups of people, and he had some very useful things to say. I'd venture to say Ali championed the cause of the black people a hell of a lot more than the Fraziers and Foremans ever did. How? He stood up and was loud about racism and prejudice.
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I knew quite a few NVA in Vietnam that called Cassius Clay a "NIGGER COWARD'.

Cassius Clay just happened to never hear them say it.

That would be kind of hard when you're hiding behind '3' White Lawyers in luxurious Miami Beach.

El Facto Mundo !!