Wlad-Fury - Plus Rod Stewart. 10pm. Saturday/SKY PPV. Fact.

[Master]

Do not get me wrong Wald was boring there is no way around it but is Fury going to be show stopper i think not really. I mean look at the fight it was boring as shit only this time Wald lost the fight i mean if we are going to give up a champ that consistent then i want a Tyson or a Holyfeild back.

I think Tyson Fury will get better. No one will look good against Wlad unless they spark him out and he is too good for that.

[erics44]

Do not get me wrong Wald was boring there is no way around it but is Fury going to be show stopper i think not really. I mean look at the fight it was boring as shit only this time Wald lost the fight i mean if we are going to give up a champ that consistent then i want a Tyson or a Holyfeild back.

I think Tyson Fury will get better. No one will look good against Wlad unless they spark him out and he is too good for that.

Wlad is too cautious to get sparked

[ono]

Actually think Fury could have knocked him out in the 11th but Tony Weeks stepped in to take a point. Just prior to that Fury had levelled him two of three times and Klitschko looked wobbly. Was waiting for the bullshit points deduction as well.

Fair play to him anyway I'm made up for him. Not sure how long he will last as champion given he's unlikely to face anyone as gunshy as Wlad again (except the rematch).

As for Wlad, this is exactly why I always questioned him being in people's p4p rankings. Turns out, assuming everyone is the same size and weight, Wlad is a little bit worse than Tyson Fury. And that's quite funny.

[TitoFan]

Actually think Fury could have knocked him out in the 11th but Tony Weeks stepped in to take a point. Just prior to that Fury had levelled him two of three times and Klitschko looked wobbly. Was waiting for the bullshit points deduction as well.

Fair play to him anyway I'm made up for him. Not sure how long he will last as champion given he's unlikely to face anyone as gunshy as Wlad again (except the rematch).

As for Wlad, this is exactly why I always questioned him being in people's p4p rankings. Turns out, assuming everyone is the same size and weight, Wlad is a little bit worse than Tyson Fury. And that's quite funny.

Sure as hell you'll have someone come in here and say "Oh yeah? Well... how about the 10 years of dominance?"

[Master]

Actually think Fury could have knocked him out in the 11th but Tony Weeks stepped in to take a point. Just prior to that Fury had levelled him two of three times and Klitschko looked wobbly. Was waiting for the bullshit points deduction as well.

Fair play to him anyway I'm made up for him. Not sure how long he will last as champion given he's unlikely to face anyone as gunshy as Wlad again (except the rematch).

As for Wlad, this is exactly why I always questioned him being in people's p4p rankings. Turns out, assuming everyone is the same size and weight, Wlad is a little bit worse than Tyson Fury. And that's quite funny.

Sure as hell you'll have someone come in here and say "Oh yeah? Well... how about the 10 years of dominance?"

Yes, you will but we will reply that the last 10 years have been crap.

[Master]

Do not get me wrong Wald was boring there is no way around it but is Fury going to be show stopper i think not really. I mean look at the fight it was boring as shit only this time Wald lost the fight i mean if we are going to give up a champ that consistent then i want a Tyson or a Holyfeild back.

I think Tyson Fury will get better. No one will look good against Wlad unless they spark him out and he is too good for that.

Wlad is too cautious to get sparked

That is what I meant, wlad has his style of survival which is holding and mauling which he has perfected to an art. You can tell wlad is fragile and has confidence issues because poor fighters he faces he takes too long to stop them and anyone remotely dangerous he hugs and leans on them.

[beenKOed]

Actually think Fury could have knocked him out in the 11th but Tony Weeks stepped in to take a point. Just prior to that Fury had levelled him two of three times and Klitschko looked wobbly. Was waiting for the bullshit points deduction as well.

Fair play to him anyway I'm made up for him. Not sure how long he will last as champion given he's unlikely to face anyone as gunshy as Wlad again (except the rematch).

As for Wlad, this is exactly why I always questioned him being in people's p4p rankings. Turns out, assuming everyone is the same size and weight, Wlad is a little bit worse than Tyson Fury. And that's quite funny.

Sure as hell you'll have someone come in here and say "Oh yeah? Well... how about the 10 years of dominance?"

Are you actually saying those 10 years mean nothing!? You really like to get on those Ali haters, you should take a look at yourself! You're a Wald hater, dude. You have let your hate take over your brain!

All that resentment, frustration, and envy that has been building for 10 years against Wald finally exploded and infected your brain with hate! Yes, I can see how it happened, when Tyson beat Wald the dam broke and all that hate washed out. You're a hater now and I don't know if you can be saved!

As much as I dislike Ali, I have never tried to say what he did in the ring was not legit. Not only do you dislike Wald's fighting style, you are also saying his whole career stinks. Oh yeah, you are a serious Wlad hater! Shame on you!

[TitoFan]

Actually think Fury could have knocked him out in the 11th but Tony Weeks stepped in to take a point. Just prior to that Fury had levelled him two of three times and Klitschko looked wobbly. Was waiting for the bullshit points deduction as well.

Fair play to him anyway I'm made up for him. Not sure how long he will last as champion given he's unlikely to face anyone as gunshy as Wlad again (except the rematch).

As for Wlad, this is exactly why I always questioned him being in people's p4p rankings. Turns out, assuming everyone is the same size and weight, Wlad is a little bit worse than Tyson Fury. And that's quite funny.

Sure as hell you'll have someone come in here and say "Oh yeah? Well... how about the 10 years of dominance?"

Are you actually saying those 10 years mean nothing!? You really like to get on those Ali haters, you should take a look at yourself! You're a Wald hater, dude. You have let your hate take over your brain!

All that resentment, frustration, and envy that has been building for 10 years against Wald finally exploded and infected your brain with hate! Yes, I can see how it happened, when Tyson beat Wald the dam broke and all that hate washed out. You're a hater now and I don't know if you can be saved!

As much as I dislike Ali, I have never tried to say what he did in the ring was not legit. Not only do you dislike Wald's fighting style, you are also saying his whole career stinks. Oh yeah, you are a serious Wlad hater! Shame on you!

"Envy" is the only thing I would strike from the record.
Other than that..... guilty as charged.

But there's differences between what you feel about Ali, and what I feel about Wlad.

I like the person, but hate the fighter.
You hate the person, and.... meh.... the fighter.

[Mr140]

It is not easy being champ for 10 years so i am not going to say Wald crap because he lost at 39 it would not make much sense. Hell he could pull off a rematch not like that fight was a barn burner and Fury does not have shit ton power who knows. Anyhow i never would think of saying a guy who was champ for 10 years lose at 39 and then he was not shit kinda stupid I mean there have been a shit ton of champs to lose to guys they should not lose to when they are near to 40 years of age. I would know because i am Holyfeild fan and he lost to guys that were not even in his class when he was ancient.

[TitoFan]

Sick and tired of hearing about the damn 10 years, as if a number alone can define what the reign was really about. Fact is... his style has always been safety first, safety second, safety third. Protect that chin at all costs, quality of the fight be damned. Although you can poke holes in the opponents of every HW champ if you really want to, fact is Wlad's opponents were a procession of has-beens and never-will-be's. On the rare occasion someone did present a real danger to Wlad, and fans got all pumped up at the prospect of a heavyweight fight like in the old days..... Wlad proceeded to foul things up by precisely that.... fouling his way to a survival...er... I mean... victory. Many people might not say it, out of grudging respect for the 10 years. But the fact of the matter is most fans are ecstatic Wlad's finally gone.

[Mr140]

I have not really cared who has been hw champ since Holyfeild called it a day but being champ for that long with guys over 230 plus trying to knock you out is not a easy task. I mean look who Tyson lost to and look who Lewis lost to people who were not even close to them in talent but a guy throwing punches who weighs over 230 is a different animal not mention Wald 39 a lot fighters lose at that age. I know you do not like the guy and thats fine but it is not easy task to be champ that long for anyone and it is even harder in hw because a punch can end it a lot easier then in other weightclasses.

[TitoFan]

I'm not saying that lasting that long (10 years) was not a feat in itself. Anybody can come out of the woodwork and beat a champ on any given day... and HW punches are more prone to cause 1-punch knockouts in general than in other weight classes. But what you say can easily apply to anybody who holds the HW title. It doesn't have to be a dull, boring, torturous affair. Lewis and Tyson, guys you mentioned, were very successful at the top, and dominant in their own time. Yet people enjoyed watching them fight. Why? Because although they paid attention to defense in their own way, they were also quite a bit into offensive fighting.... actually trying to knock the other guy out. Sometimes in the process they would engage in toe-to-toe exchanges, with each guy giving as good as he took. That could never happen with Wlad. The moment he took a decent one on the chin, he'd be down and out. He knows this..... so he fights like crap. The fact he's knocked out so many opponents is a testament to how little resistance they've put up when in the ring. Of the few exceptions, you had guys like Povetkin, who came in to make an honest effort to win, and what did Wlad do? Turn the fight into a "foul-fest". There's no way you can make a comparison between the quality of Lewis and Mike Tyson fights and Wlad fights and have Wlad look good. No way. Lewis' and Tyson's fights were exciting, and they brought fans to HW boxing. Wlad's fights have turned people off from the division.

[Beanz]

So now Wlad doesn't even credit for knocking opponents out? Bloody hell

[TitoFan]

You don't read very well, do you.

He gets credit.

But you'll forgive me if I don't bow at the altar of the Great Wladimir Klitschko The Greatest Heavyweight Boxing Champion in the History of the Universe... ok?

Some of you need to loosen the grip on your blinders.... they'll give you a killer migraine.

My contention..... and bear in mind these are all opinions, just like you guys in the Hail Mighty Wlad Fan Club have your own..... my contention is that just to blabber that Wlad defended his title for 10 years, blah, blah, blah..... yadda, yadda, yadda..... doesn't amount to a hill of beans to me. As with any empty shell of a number, you need to look past that. How did Wlad do against the key opponents in his career? Forget getting the damn "W". How did he perform against Haye? Sultan? Povetkin?

Finally.... along came Fury with all his faults, quirks, annoying personality, and controversial views on life. He also came along with the size to equal Wlad's..... and a confidence that unnerved Wlad and brought his REAL FEARS out so everyone could see. His fans were in denial all these years..... but Wlad proved some of us right once and for all.

No "cojones".

[Beanz]

I am not a Wlad fan. Why the extreme polarity rubbish?