Quillin vs. Jacobs....

[IamInuit]

Boxing has definitely become pussified generally but each questionable call should be looked at. This one was not as hasty as I first thought looking at Quillin.

Ten counts have gone the way of the dodo bird and rightly so. When someone is knocked cold on the tarmac there is no reason to count to ten. Doing so could actually risk his life. Sloppy things like what happened tonight are a tough call when looked at closely. Perhaps he should have given him an eight count but boxing cant seem to hand that out properly. I see fights all the time with a rule saying no standing 8 counts and yet you get them.

[J_Undisputed]

Boxing has definitely become pussified generally but each questionable call should be looked at. This one was not as hasty as I first thought looking at Quillin.

Ten counts have gone the way of the dodo bird and rightly so. When someone is knocked cold on the tarmac there is no reason to count to ten. Doing so could actually risk his life. Sloppy things like what happened tonight are a tough call when looked at closely. Perhaps he should have given him an eight count but boxing cant seem to hand that out properly. I see fights all the time with a rule saying no standing 8 counts and yet you get them.

Definitely agreed and on your prior point. The question is does quillen get a stop in the action from another ref for hitting on the break (or is it one of those things where people refer to the protect yourself at all times thing and disregard. Also if quillen gets a standing 8 (was there no standing 8?) when does it start?

- If it starts when the guy touches down and gets up and gets the standard 8 count anyway, quillen didn't hit the ground (a feat in itself)..

- if it starts after dock sends jacobs to a neutral corner that didn't happen either.

Jacobs swings, quillen wobbles and jacobs walks away seemingly without dock calling for a break, Dock steps into the vacant space between them like he just got back from the bathroom and wanted an update. I believe he directs jacobs to "somewhere over there" and jacobs stands what looks like to be against the ropes between two corners. Dock turns his attention to quillen whos just steadied his legs and without a count, waves it off because Quillen is off in space somewhere. And just as dock is waving it off, Jacobs comes charging toward quillen from behind dock. I'm not saying it would have changed the equation if quillen was allowed an 8 count somewhere in there (he didn't know what was going on)...

but from the way that evolved... to quillens "nah, thats ok.. i dont need a rematch.. i'd rather tell the danny jacobs story in my post fight interview" (and considering that quillen sat out and held the belt before at Haymon's request till the pbc contract came through... and then relinquished it. Something feels amiss to me...(Not to discredit Jacobs for his work tonight, of course)

[Primo Carnera]

Maybe because it was only the 1st round, the ref could've cut him a little slack, but I don't think it would've made a difference in the end.
But what it does show is what the fuck has happened to Quillin? This potential "all American Dream" fighter of a few years back. A draw with Lee (not exactly a great fighter with respect) after coming in unprofessionally heavy and out of shape, and now this. His days are numbered surely if he can't be dedicated enough.

[g3org3]

Just watched the fight that was a bad stoppage sure quillin was in big trouble but it was a big fight and ref should of gave quillin that chance to go on

[mikeeod]

I can see where people feel the stoppage was premature. That being said, I thought it was a fair stoppage. The fact that Peter didn't protest much and didn't seem eager for rematch tells me he was buzzed significantly.

Read a post earlier discussing GGG vs Jacobs. I like Jacob and Quillen but GGG destroys both of those guys. Guess each have a punchers chance and some athleticism but I see GGG stopping both early.

[ruthless rocco]

I agree, Quillin did not seem eager for a rematch.

[Fenster]

No problem with the stoppage. If the fighter getting stopped thinks it's OK then it's absolutely ridiculous for fans to argue it's not (by the way, there is no standing 8 count in title fights).

After staggering across the ring from the final temple shot, Quillin was bopping on the spot like a drunk grandad at a wedding. He didn't even react to the ref grabbing him.

[Primo Carnera]

As far as I'm concerned, Quillin is finished as a top Boxer.

[ykdadamaja]

As far as I'm concerned, Quillin is finished as a top Boxer.

Yea. I was just saying that he was pretty much done. To me, he was out of it from when he ducked Korobov to fight Lee. That didn't work out well for him at all. And now, Jacobs was calling him out for a hot minute or two....and now we see why?! Jacobs had a feeling he had a chalk on Quillin, and so he did.

To be fair, I would have let Quillin continue for about another ten seconds. But, as the rules state, if the ref has any reason to administer any time outside of a foul, when the standing 8 count is not in effect, then the fight has to be stopped.