Joshua - Whyte (What A Fight)

[ross]

I also reckon if todays josh would have fought fury at fight 15 josh would have won

You do I dont.

Joshua team are building his record and not his skills.

[Memphis]

I also reckon if todays josh would have fought fury at fight 15 josh would have won

You do I dont.

Joshua team are building his record and not his skills.

There's a shocker

[Memphis]

I also reckon if todays josh would have fought fury at fight 15 josh would have won

You do I dont.

Joshua team are building his record and not his skills.

Care to elaborate on this? Keeping in mind that at 15 fights Tyson Fury was fighting 14 fight Derrick Chisora for the Brit belt.


Joshua and Fury have essentially fought the same person at the same time for the same title. Although having said that, you've made it quite clear that Whyte is getting the best of training and experience so you could argue that Joshua beat a better fighter?


Your go

[Memphis]

I made a mistake. It was Chisora's 15th fight. I apologise.


Whilst I was checking though I did notice that Chisora came into the Fury fight nigh on 20lbs!! heavier than in the two fights that sandwiched it.


I dont know if you know this. But 20 pounds of extra lard on a man will have serious implications and render him utterly impotent in a matter of rounds.

[Primo Carnera]

I made a mistake. It was Chisora's 15th fight. I apologise.


Whilst I was checking though I did notice that Chisora came into the Fury fight nigh on 20lbs!! heavier than in the two fights that sandwiched it.


I dont know if you know this. But 20 pounds of extra lard on a man will have serious implications and render him utterly impotent in a matter of rounds.

Now Memphis, don't you know anything? That 20lbs was "Pure Muscle", just like AJ's was!!!😂😂😂😂

[ross]

I also reckon if todays josh would have fought fury at fight 15 josh would have won

You do I dont.

Joshua team are building his record and not his skills.

Care to elaborate on this? Keeping in mind that at 15 fights Tyson Fury was fighting 14 fight Derrick Chisora for the Brit belt.


Joshua and Fury have essentially fought the same person at the same time for the same title. Although having said that, you've made it quite clear that Whyte is getting the best of training and experience so you could argue that Joshua beat a better fighter?


Your go

Whyte wasnt lined up as a world title challenger was he? Did he have a world champion pull out twice against him?

Joshua hasnt had a steady progression of fighters with various attributes. Although he seems a bit better his career trajectory seems more like Prices where he has plateaued with washed out boxers and has had no choice but to make a leap of faith. It hasnt been as big a leap as Price was dealt, thrown in with a recent world title challenger.

Whyte did have excellent facilities. He did also look very exhausted. Joshua to me looked to have issues that wont be easily fixed like no instinct to move his head and how hard he tries to always hit hard and ends up slowing himself down. Even Whyte showed ability to ride punches and move his head.

[Memphis]

I also reckon if todays josh would have fought fury at fight 15 josh would have won

You do I dont.

Joshua team are building his record and not his skills.

Care to elaborate on this? Keeping in mind that at 15 fights Tyson Fury was fighting 14 fight Derrick Chisora for the Brit belt.


Joshua and Fury have essentially fought the same person at the same time for the same title. Although having said that, you've made it quite clear that Whyte is getting the best of training and experience so you could argue that Joshua beat a better fighter?


Your go

Whyte wasnt lined up as a world title challenger was he? Did he have a world champion pull out twice against him?

Joshua hasnt had a steady progression of fighters with various attributes. Although he seems a bit better his career trajectory seems more like Prices where he has plateaued with washed out boxers and has had no choice but to make a leap of faith. It hasnt been as big a leap as Price was dealt, thrown in with a recent world title challenger.

Whyte did have excellent facilities. He did also look very exhausted. Joshua to me looked to have issues that wont be easily fixed like no instinct to move his head and how hard he tries to always hit hard and ends up slowing himself down. Even Whyte showed ability to ride punches and move his head.

Im confused, easily done when I read your posts to be fair but what trees were Tyson Fury pulling up fights 1 through 14?


Are you suggesting that Tyson Fury's path to Derrick Chisora and a Brit title fight was so littered with variation that it should stand as some kind of beacon for how to manage your career?


Maybe Joshua should go and get himself knocked about a bit by a Bosnian brick layer in a couple of fights time. Have a three round up and down war to really develop his skill set?

[Memphis]

News flash ross. Whyte.....................was fucked because Joshua punched him in the face and body a shit load of times. He punched him so hard in the first round that (I cant believe Im agreeing with Jim Watt) he wanted to quit and fully aware of what he was doing attempted to get thrown out. My opinion of course.


Joshua was in the habit of throwing every punch like it was going to end the fight. If it's been working so far I guess its a natural thing to do. But heres the thing. Everyone! saw Joshua hold back a bit in the 5/6 rounds and focus on boxing. Not only did he do the very thing you're accusing him of not doing, he did it in fight. That's a good thing.


Whyte showed the ability to ride punches and move his head Not a fucking nough he didn't mate

[Primo Carnera]

Come on Ross, Memphis has got you on the ropes here to the extent that he has to reply to his own posts because you haven't got an answer!
😂😂😂😂😂
"Well I was walking in Memphis
Walking with my feet 10 feet in the air
Walking in Memphis,
But do really feel the way I feel !"
Go on Memphis! 👍👌🎤

[Primo Carnera]

"Now, they've got catfish on the table
They've got gospel in the air
And Reverend Green, be glad to see you
When you haven't got a prayer
But boy you got a prayer in Memphis."

[Primo Carnera]

Nah Ross, Memphis has still got you I'm afraid.
"Put on my blue suede shoes and
I boarded the plane
Touched down in the land of the Delta Blues
In the middle of the pouring rain

Now, Muriel plays piano
Every Friday at the Hollywood
And they brought me down to see her
And they asked me if I would
Do a little number
And I sang with all my might
She said, "Tell me are you a Christian, child?"
And I said, "Ma'am, I am tonight!"
😂😂😂😂

[ross]

No reasoned argument? No come back? Been gazumped by ross?

Just disagree and rinse and repeat

[ross]

I also reckon if todays josh would have fought fury at fight 15 josh would have won

You do I dont.

Joshua team are building his record and not his skills.

Care to elaborate on this? Keeping in mind that at 15 fights Tyson Fury was fighting 14 fight Derrick Chisora for the Brit belt.


Joshua and Fury have essentially fought the same person at the same time for the same title. Although having said that, you've made it quite clear that Whyte is getting the best of training and experience so you could argue that Joshua beat a better fighter?


Your go

Whyte wasnt lined up as a world title challenger was he? Did he have a world champion pull out twice against him?

Joshua hasnt had a steady progression of fighters with various attributes. Although he seems a bit better his career trajectory seems more like Prices where he has plateaued with washed out boxers and has had no choice but to make a leap of faith. It hasnt been as big a leap as Price was dealt, thrown in with a recent world title challenger.

Whyte did have excellent facilities. He did also look very exhausted. Joshua to me looked to have issues that wont be easily fixed like no instinct to move his head and how hard he tries to always hit hard and ends up slowing himself down. Even Whyte showed ability to ride punches and move his head.

Im confused, easily done when I read your posts to be fair but what trees were Tyson Fury pulling up fights 1 through 14?


Are you suggesting that Tyson Fury's path to Derrick Chisora and a Brit title fight was so littered with variation that it should stand as some kind of beacon for how to manage your career?


Maybe Joshua should go and get himself knocked about a bit by a Bosnian brick layer in a couple of fights time. Have a three round up and down war to really develop his skill set?

As far as I can see Tyson is the only heavyweight on the planet that was able to completely dominate Wladimir Klitschko and now stands alone as the best heavyweight on the planet so maybe yes!

You mugs

[Memphis]

I also reckon if todays josh would have fought fury at fight 15 josh would have won

You do I dont.

Joshua team are building his record and not his skills.

Care to elaborate on this? Keeping in mind that at 15 fights Tyson Fury was fighting 14 fight Derrick Chisora for the Brit belt.


Joshua and Fury have essentially fought the same person at the same time for the same title. Although having said that, you've made it quite clear that Whyte is getting the best of training and experience so you could argue that Joshua beat a better fighter?


Your go

Whyte wasnt lined up as a world title challenger was he? Did he have a world champion pull out twice against him?

Joshua hasnt had a steady progression of fighters with various attributes. Although he seems a bit better his career trajectory seems more like Prices where he has plateaued with washed out boxers and has had no choice but to make a leap of faith. It hasnt been as big a leap as Price was dealt, thrown in with a recent world title challenger.

Whyte did have excellent facilities. He did also look very exhausted. Joshua to me looked to have issues that wont be easily fixed like no instinct to move his head and how hard he tries to always hit hard and ends up slowing himself down. Even Whyte showed ability to ride punches and move his head.

Im confused, easily done when I read your posts to be fair but what trees were Tyson Fury pulling up fights 1 through 14?


Are you suggesting that Tyson Fury's path to Derrick Chisora and a Brit title fight was so littered with variation that it should stand as some kind of beacon for how to manage your career?


Maybe Joshua should go and get himself knocked about a bit by a Bosnian brick layer in a couple of fights time. Have a three round up and down war to really develop his skill set?

As far as I can see Tyson is the only heavyweight on the planet that was able to completely dominate Wladimir Klitschko and now stands alone as the best heavyweight on the planet so maybe yes!

You mugs

Yeah you've kinda skipped forward ten fights there and completely dodged the question.


If that's your approach and 'Tyson beat Wlad so there' is all you've got there's really no point in debating the matter is there?

[ross]

I also reckon if todays josh would have fought fury at fight 15 josh would have won

You do I dont.

Joshua team are building his record and not his skills.

Care to elaborate on this? Keeping in mind that at 15 fights Tyson Fury was fighting 14 fight Derrick Chisora for the Brit belt.


Joshua and Fury have essentially fought the same person at the same time for the same title. Although having said that, you've made it quite clear that Whyte is getting the best of training and experience so you could argue that Joshua beat a better fighter?


Your go

Whyte wasnt lined up as a world title challenger was he? Did he have a world champion pull out twice against him?

Joshua hasnt had a steady progression of fighters with various attributes. Although he seems a bit better his career trajectory seems more like Prices where he has plateaued with washed out boxers and has had no choice but to make a leap of faith. It hasnt been as big a leap as Price was dealt, thrown in with a recent world title challenger.

Whyte did have excellent facilities. He did also look very exhausted. Joshua to me looked to have issues that wont be easily fixed like no instinct to move his head and how hard he tries to always hit hard and ends up slowing himself down. Even Whyte showed ability to ride punches and move his head.

Im confused, easily done when I read your posts to be fair but what trees were Tyson Fury pulling up fights 1 through 14?


Are you suggesting that Tyson Fury's path to Derrick Chisora and a Brit title fight was so littered with variation that it should stand as some kind of beacon for how to manage your career?


Maybe Joshua should go and get himself knocked about a bit by a Bosnian brick layer in a couple of fights time. Have a three round up and down war to really develop his skill set?

As far as I can see Tyson is the only heavyweight on the planet that was able to completely dominate Wladimir Klitschko and now stands alone as the best heavyweight on the planet so maybe yes!

You mugs

Yeah you've kinda skipped forward ten fights there and completely dodged the question.


If that's your approach and 'Tyson beat Wlad so there' is all you've got there's really no point in debating the matter is there?

Oh dont get your knickers in a twist petal!

Tyson did beat Wlad and easy so clearly his career approach worked