Andy Lee-Billy Joe Saunders -- Plus Big Undercard. Sat/BN. Fact.

[Fenster]

Billy Joe probably mentions Eubank all the time because no-one would know who he is without that fight. I feel sorry for those fighters with Warren/BoxNation (I don't really feel sorry for them, I couldn't give a fuck), nobody apart from boxing nerds know who they are).

[beenKOed]

Billy Joe probably mentions Eubank all the time because no-one would know who he is without that fight. I feel sorry for those fighters with Warren/BoxNation (I don't really feel sorry for them, I couldn't give a fuck), nobody apart from boxing nerds know who they are).

You must have missed lunch today, you're a little grumpy. Lol

[Fenster]

Billy Joe probably mentions Eubank all the time because no-one would know who he is without that fight. I feel sorry for those fighters with Warren/BoxNation (I don't really feel sorry for them, I couldn't give a fuck), nobody apart from boxing nerds know who they are).

You must have missed lunch today, you're a little grumpy. Lol

I'm never grumpy. Truthful. I understand my vernacular gives the wrong impression sometimes.

[Fenster]

It's not as simple as "arrogance sells." The most loved British fighter of our modern era was Ricky Hatton. He never said a bad word about anyone. Currently Anthony Joshua is massive popular. He never says a bad word about anyone.

Polarising public opinion is a terrific seller (Floyd/Eubank snr were masters) but the majority of fighters are never gonna be crossover stars.

In simple terms - You don't have to be a prick to put bums on seats. It works for some, not for others.

[ross]

It's not as simple as "arrogance sells." The most loved British fighter of our modern era was Ricky Hatton. He never said a bad word about anyone. Currently Anthony Joshua is massive popular. He never says a bad word about anyone.

Polarising public opinion is a terrific seller (Floyd/Eubank snr were masters) but the majority of fighters are never gonna be crossover stars.

In simple terms - You don't have to be a prick to put bums on seats. It works for some, not for others.

Arrogance doesnt mean you have to be a prick about anyone!?

Eubank Jr rarely says anything bad about anyone. He just projects a solid belief that he will win and can beat anyone.

Arrogance is what people perceive self confidence to be. The general slob who cant be bothered to acheive much in life will get annoyed with people like Eubank and Fury because they are so sure of themselves when those slobs are not. Slobs are aftaid to try and fail.

[Batman]

I made a thread a while back saying that Lee and BJS needed a kick up the arse when it came to promoting themselves.

I'm backing BJS to win it on points, I think everyone (even the fighters themselves) have said it'll either be BJS on points of Lee via KO

[Master]

BJS will win and become world champion. You heard it here last.

[ross]

Billy Joe probably mentions Eubank all the time because no-one would know who he is without that fight. I feel sorry for those fighters with Warren/BoxNation (I don't really feel sorry for them, I couldn't give a fuck), nobody apart from boxing nerds know who they are).

I agree. I dont think its totally down to Warren though. The fighters need to take the blame themselves.

Theres no point crying about the attention that Eubank gets because he works hard to get that attention. Arrogance sells. Excitment sells. Saunders just doesnt get it. Whinng about Eubank in every interview doesnt sell himself.

No ne really cares about Lee either. Its a shame because the fight will be interesting. A good clash of styles against good fighters they just lack the right personality for people to care. Maybe Warren should have his fighters go through personality school.

The problem is you have fighters like Saunders who downplay themselves saying things like "Golovkin would knock me out and I wouldnt stand a chance". How does that sell yourself? You arent even confident in your own ability so why would a potential fan invest time and money following your career and watching your fights if you are telling them your never going to be the best anyway?

Someone like Eubank on the other hand has you curious or furious. You womder at the back of your mind can he really do it? Or you want to watch him get his head knocked off his shoulders. He makes you invest an interest.

[Dark Lord Al]

Yes this fight is for the WBO belt , nobody believes either of these 2 are, or will be the Middleweight champion of the world.
It will be a fun fight I will be watching.

[Primo Carnera]

Billy Joe probably mentions Eubank all the time because no-one would know who he is without that fight. I feel sorry for those fighters with Warren/BoxNation (I don't really feel sorry for them, I couldn't give a fuck), nobody apart from boxing nerds know who they are).

I agree. I dont think its totally down to Warren though. The fighters need to take the blame themselves.

Theres no point crying about the attention that Eubank gets because he works hard to get that attention. Arrogance sells. Excitment sells. Saunders just doesnt get it. Whinng about Eubank in every interview doesnt sell himself.

No ne really cares about Lee either. Its a shame because the fight will be interesting. A good clash of styles against good fighters they just lack the right personality for people to care. Maybe Warren should have his fighters go through personality school.

The problem is you have fighters like Saunders who downplay themselves saying things like "Golovkin would knock me out and I wouldnt stand a chance". How does that sell yourself? You arent even confident in your own ability so why would a potential fan invest time and money following your career and watching your fights if you are telling them your never going to be the best anyway?

Someone like Eubank on the other hand has you curious or furious. You womder at the back of your mind can he really do it? Or you want to watch him get his head knocked off his shoulders. He makes you invest an interest.

this is the thing. some (many, actually) people prefer the hype and bullshit over quality and who is the best. Others are interested in winners.
I think you have to prove yourself and become a winner first , then you can reap the rewards and hype yourself up to the max.
What I would say though is that I totally agree with the last paragraph and I've put it in bold because it was very well put! (for you!)

[superheavyrhun]

Cracking matchup, but everything said about Frank's waning promotional skills is why this hasn't popped up sooner I imagine, plus the fact they've plonked it the weekend before Christmas when loads of people will be out on the town.

Tough one to call, I'm thinking Andy Lee might have the experience here. Good undercard too.