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well as for Forman I don't agree with you at all who did he lose too that was shit ? The Briggs fight he clearly won and got robbed, Holyfield is an all time great who was undefeated when they met, Morrison was also looked at as a very promising talent think he only had been beat 1 time before facing Forman. Ali well some rate his as the best ever and there was another defeat he had can even remember the guys name but I think he was pretty average to be honest.
As for Robinson I'll be honest I've not seen all his fights although I've seen a lot and didn't know a lot of the fighters he faced but he did look like a phenomenal talent, probably the most complete package fighter I've seen, from what I've seen he looked as if he had it all.
So you punish Jones Jr because you watched his fights, but reward Robinson because you did not? Surely then you should have Greb in there; as there no film of his fights...
Well yes obviously I can judge fighters a lot better actually growing up watching them fight, as I said before I know very few of Ray Robinsons opponents and am just judging Robinson on how he looks in fights because he's from an era I wasn't born in. Also Jones been getting brutality stopped in fights something that never happened to Robinson. Have u just done a complete u turn on Forman was expecting a reply about his defeats?

Foreman suffered embarrassing defeats. Jimmy Young was meant to be blown out and battered George into his first retirement and then 'The Duke' was in a poor run and brought in, to make Foreman look good.

And fair enough, you do not consider the Briggs fight a defeat; so that means you must consider the Schultz fight a defeat. Now I think even Jones Jr could still beat ol' Axel. But then maybe you did not see Schultz on TV and thus rate him up there with Ali, Louis et al!
Foreman also wasted his prime years and missed out on big fights with Larry Holmes. Foreman's opponents were handpicked and he never wanted to face the best opposition in his comeback actively avoiding Lennox and Bows who were too big, young and dangerous for him.