Absolute Proof Liberalism is a Mental Disorder

[Beanz]

I am in no way lumping you in with Brockton but the world does not come with Guarantees of no risk. Risk is part of liberty. Are you going to stop all immigration because there is a threat of criminals immigrating ? Are you going to stop American citizens owning guns because a small minority may go on a rampage and kill more than a terrorist? Of course not. Then how can you apply the same illogical rhetoric to refugees fleeing a regime that they have no arms to fight against ?

The Pilgrim fathers left from these shores only a couple of miles from where I am now, in search of religious freedom, and now you are suggesting that it is somehow Mentally disordered for anyone to believe in liberation from persecution?

Thank you, that is greatly appreciated.


You are correct in that there are no guarantees, and that liberty is a dangerous thing....but you can manage risk when it comes to accepting refugees into your nation. I do think that stopping immigration for a while should be looked at because if you keep flooding the nation with people who don't understand/respect the nation then eventually you have no nation. I think America needs time to assimilate some of it's new citizens.

That said Arab nations should be expected to take care of their people. Those fleeing Syria (and in reality there are some actually fleeing Syria, but a lot are just other immigrants) are Arab, and being Arab you'd figure that in a nice, peaceful religion like Islam (which is the main religion in these Arab nations) the religious brothers and sisters of these refugees would welcome them into their nations with open arms....this has not been the case and it certainly makes me worry more. What aren't we being told? Why wouldn't Arab nations help out? Why must America and Europe shoulder this burden alone? Wouldn't it be a better fit? Wouldn't there be LESS of a culture shock?

Beanz, why do you think Arab nations are refusing to open their doors to these refugees?



The Pilgrims left from a land where they were persecuted in order to start their own nation in a land that wasn't yet inhabited by Anglo-Saxons and where land was widely available. If the refugees are indeed looking for a place where they will not be persecuted, that's fine, but there's a price to pay for that (they have to follow our laws).

Many Arab nations are not helping because they have supported Assad and his regime and other vested arms interests which are served by escalating conflict. Despite this half are in Turkey because of it's border but Iran has not taken any which is no surprise considering they backed Assad. There are many in Jordan and Lebanon (Which is of course not Islamic/Arab only). The other reason is because they are more like US than Arabs. They are whiter, like Brockton, and so Europe is more appealing to them than many Arab countries where they fear further persecution. We have a few thousand here in the UK and yet the million plus in Turkey and Lebanon is not even remarked upon. The media focus on what suits their agenda.

Syrian refugees: Which countries welcome them - CNN.com

So the TRUTH is America and Europe are not shouldering the majority of the burden at all. 1/4 million have returned to Iraq and yet again you don't see that on the news. Like America the Syrian secular legal system and much of it's framework was based on french law and the republicanism which framed your constitution. Assad has used religion as a weapon but Syrians like the much used example of Steve Jobs are not surprisingly drawn to secular countries in which their education and expertise can be used fruitfully. So following your laws will not be a problem for them. (Not that you followed any of the Native Americans )

The real bogeyman is heading corrupt corporations and Government think tanks in your and my country, whilst profiting massively from an unjust war killing civilians rather than an enemy they armed. If the Turks stopped buying Oil from Isil and the UK and America stopped selling arms to the Saudis, the middle east would already become more stable and the factions could at least have decisive wars not infinitely prolonged by outside factors.

[El Kabong]

Not that you followed any of the Native Americans

Thanks, I'll not disagree with you again Beanz.

[Andre]

This isnt Muslim its cultural.. and the source is what the others I used drew from.

Im not sure but its my bet that if you looked hard into Sth Africas figures Im sort of betting the Zulu areas around Johannesburg would have a much higher rate of this compared with the Corsa areas down around Capetown.

Do you know some fuckwits would point the finger at me over that and say Im racist. Its culture and these men need to be reeducated on it before being let in here.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_st...012,_world.jpg

[Andre]

These were our streets the other week. The Somalians dont leave their wars at home they bring them here.

This isnt Muslim practice, its in their culture its in their upbringing.

They need reeducating on our boarders at the point of entry.

http://www.9news.com.au/national/201...ford-melbourne

[brocktonblockbust]

These were our streets the other week. The Somalians dont leave their wars at home they bring them here.

This isnt Muslim practice, its in their culture its in their upbringing.

They need reeducating on our boarders at the point of entry.

Man charged after brawl erupts at Melbourne police station during stabbing investigation - 9news.com.au

three Somalis in Kuala Lumpur who lived in a building adjacent to one I was living in while teaching there for 2 years were arrested for causing BEDLAM AND VIOLENT MAYHEM in a cell phone store. Because the vendor was a Malaysian Muslim the Somalis believed that he should have given them a discount. When he would not give them the discount one pulled out a machete and begin chopping the glass showcase. I had just left the area an hour before the next thing I know three somalis are rounded up and brought to immigration and deported.

[Andre]

These were our streets the other week. The Somalians dont leave their wars at home they bring them here.

This isnt Muslim practice, its in their culture its in their upbringing.

They need reeducating on our boarders at the point of entry.

Man charged after brawl erupts at Melbourne police station during stabbing investigation - 9news.com.au

three Somalis in Kuala Lumpur who lived in a building adjacent to one I was living in while teaching there for 2 years were arrested for causing BEDLAM AND VIOLENT MAYHEM in a cell phone store. Because the vendor was a Malaysian Muslim the Somalis believed that he should have given them a discount. When he would not give them the discount one pulled out a machete and begin chopping the glass showcase. I had just left the area an hour before the next thing I know three somalis are rounded up and brought to immigration and deported.

Exactly how it should work. If you fuck up you get sent back.
(I fancy a free trip back to England ,Ive done my time here, wheres my bat)

[brocktonblockbust]

These were our streets the other week. The Somalians dont leave their wars at home they bring them here.

This isnt Muslim practice, its in their culture its in their upbringing.

They need reeducating on our boarders at the point of entry.

Man charged after brawl erupts at Melbourne police station during stabbing investigation - 9news.com.au

three Somalis in Kuala Lumpur who lived in a building adjacent to one I was living in while teaching there for 2 years were arrested for causing BEDLAM AND VIOLENT MAYHEM in a cell phone store. Because the vendor was a Malaysian Muslim the Somalis believed that he should have given them a discount. When he would not give them the discount one pulled out a machete and begin chopping the glass showcase. I had just left the area an hour before the next thing I know three somalis are rounded up and brought to immigration and deported.

Exactly how it should work. If you fuck up you get sent back.
(I fancy a free trip back to England ,Ive done my time here, wheres my bat)

I heard you're good at cricket

[brocktonblockbust]

its in their culture its in their upbringing.

They need reeducating on our boarders at the point of entry]

Exactly. Reeducation at the border of THEIR country first (by me & Reginald @20 Somali shillings per hour)(full airfare included) then again at the Statue of Liberty and London Bridge just to be sure.

[brocktonblockbust]

Do you know some fuckwits would point the finger at me over that and say Im racist. Its culture and these men need to be reeducated on it before being let in here.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_st...012,_world.jpg

I agree mate there are some bleeding heart liberal liberals who are way too hasty to point the finger and play the race card,,……… it is just too easy to do and so totally politically correct

[Beanz]

Do you know some fuckwits would point the finger at me over that and say Im racist. Its culture and these men need to be reeducated on it before being let in here.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_st...012,_world.jpg

I agree mate there are some bleeding heart liberal liberals who are way too hasty to point the finger and play the race card,,……… it is just too easy to do and so totally politically correct

That is hugely dishonest of you Brockton. The only one here who uses the race card is you. Nigh on every day. You cant help telling us how you are Armenian. How your foreign students are lucky to have you. How your family were immigrants. How many languages you speak. You even repeatedly reply to posters in their own language, it's fucking nauseating. Your over compensation is embarrassing.

Absolutely nobody here would call Andre a racist for saying what he has, but you would like to believe that they would, so that you could remind us of how cultured and knowledgeable you are, whilst still being a real man not afraid to call Anglo Saxons pigs and rats. You have started idiot guide threads now so condescending have you become.

[walrus]

Do you know some fuckwits would point the finger at me over that and say Im racist. Its culture and these men need to be reeducated on it before being let in here.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_st...012,_world.jpg

I agree mate there are some bleeding heart liberal liberals who are way too hasty to point the finger and play the race card,,……… it is just too easy to do and so totally politically correct

That is hugely dishonest of you Brockton. The only one here who uses the race card is you. Nigh on every day. You cant help telling us how you are Armenian. How your foreign students are lucky to have you. How your family were immigrants. How many languages you speak. You even repeatedly reply to posters in their own language, it's fucking nauseating. Your over compensation is embarrassing.

Absolutely nobody here would call Andre a racist for saying what he has, but you would like to believe that they would, so that you could remind us of how cultured and knowledgeable you are, whilst still being a real man not afraid to call Anglo Saxons pigs and rats. You have started idiot guide threads now so condescending have you become.

@Andre, you are a racist

[walrus]

Do you know some fuckwits would point the finger at me over that and say Im racist. Its culture and these men need to be reeducated on it before being let in here.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_st...012,_world.jpg

I agree mate there are some bleeding heart liberal liberals who are way too hasty to point the finger and play the race card,,……… it is just too easy to do and so totally politically correct

That is hugely dishonest of you Brockton. The only one here who uses the race card is you. Nigh on every day. You cant help telling us how you are Armenian. How your foreign students are lucky to have you. How your family were immigrants. How many languages you speak. You even repeatedly reply to posters in their own language, it's fucking nauseating. Your over compensation is embarrassing.

Absolutely nobody here would call Andre a racist for saying what he has, but you would like to believe that they would, so that you could remind us of how cultured and knowledgeable you are, whilst still being a real man not afraid to call Anglo Saxons pigs and rats. You have started idiot guide threads now so condescending have you become.

@Andre, you are a racist

[Andre]

Do you know some fuckwits would point the finger at me over that and say Im racist. Its culture and these men need to be reeducated on it before being let in here.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_st...012,_world.jpg

I agree mate there are some bleeding heart liberal liberals who are way too hasty to point the finger and play the race card,,……… it is just too easy to do and so totally politically correct

That is hugely dishonest of you Brockton. The only one here who uses the race card is you. Nigh on every day. You cant help telling us how you are Armenian. How your foreign students are lucky to have you. How your family were immigrants. How many languages you speak. You even repeatedly reply to posters in their own language, it's fucking nauseating. Your over compensation is embarrassing.

Absolutely nobody here would call Andre a racist for saying what he has, but you would like to believe that they would, so that you could remind us of how cultured and knowledgeable you are, whilst still being a real man not afraid to call Anglo Saxons pigs and rats. You have started idiot guide threads now so condescending have you become.

@Andre, you are a racist

The gears on my racist bike seized so Im peddling cultural hatred instead.

[brocktonblockbust]

Some people believe it is being done to society by design. Kind of like the way the United States and the UK like to keep the Middle East in turmoil and chaos. However others think that it is not in the government's best interest to have constant chaos in society. You would figure if there was law and order and everybody was happy that they would consume more and that therefore the corporation's would earn more money off of that kind of calm and law and order latest. It is definitely a catch 22

[Andre]

Separate issue and somewhat larger but yeah some do think its all by design and when you look at the cops in the US going military on the public under the courts full protection you can clearly see what they expect to occur and their end vision.