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    Default Re: Eubank, Benn, Watson and the last golden era of British boxing.

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    I've always felt that Watson was the most talented of the group. Still do.
    These 3 were not the best in the country at the time never mind the world. Herol Graham was.
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    I'm still surprised at how big the trio surpassed boarders and were so visible at the time considering no web and all. It seemed even down here Benn and Eubank fights were being aired on any random obscure channel. Benn did well to totally take it on the road after Watson pulled his curtain back, rebuild in the States on free TV and cap it off back home. More than a benefit to a division or with respect, homeland, the sport as a whole was far better for trio.

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    Default Re: Eubank, Benn, Watson and the last golden era of British boxing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    I've always felt that Watson was the most talented of the group. Still do.
    These 3 were not the best in the country at the time never mind the world. Herol Graham was.

    Could be but even though their careers sort of overlapped they sorta didn't. He retired or stopped boxing for over 4 years in the early 90's right when the other crew was in stride other then Watson whose career was cut short.

    When I think of the Fab 4 in relationship to British boxing its always been Benn, Eubank, Collins and Watson. When I think of the 4 Horseman on this side its Leonard, Hagler, Hearns and Duran. In reality I suppose it should be 5 because of Benitez and equally deserving the Fab 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    I've always felt that Watson was the most talented of the group. Still do.
    These 3 were not the best in the country at the time never mind the world. Herol Graham was.

    Could be but even though their careers sort of overlapped they sorta didn't. He retired or stopped boxing for over 4 years in the early 90's right when the other crew was in stride other then Watson whose career was cut short.

    When I think of the Fab 4 in relationship to British boxing its always been Benn, Eubank, Collins and Watson. When I think of the 4 Horseman on this side its Leonard, Hagler, Hearns and Duran. In reality I suppose it should be 5 because of Benitez and equally deserving the Fab 5
    thing is it was benn and eubank really

    yeah Watson was there and probably was the best out of the three but people really wanted to see the benn and eubank fights

    I don't think Collins can be added to that, he came along at the end when both fighters had had their day
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post

    thing is it was benn and eubank really

    yeah Watson was there and probably was the best out of the three but people really wanted to see the benn and eubank fights

    I don't think Collins can be added to that, he came along at the end when both fighters had had their day
    I remember Watson being very popular. He even was allowed the McCallum slip up. He was not as brash as Benn or Eubank, but that worked in his favour. He was very much the equal in the popularity stakes at least down here in London.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post

    thing is it was benn and eubank really

    yeah Watson was there and probably was the best out of the three but people really wanted to see the benn and eubank fights

    I don't think Collins can be added to that, he came along at the end when both fighters had had their day
    I remember Watson being very popular. He even was allowed the McCallum slip up. He was not as brash as Benn or Eubank, but that worked in his favour. He was very much the equal in the popularity stakes at least down here in London.
    yep I can understand that, I'm from the north and Watson wasn't a name with the casual fan, not like Benn Eubank anyway

    I think all three would be bigger stars now, even without each other
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    I've always felt that Watson was the most talented of the group. Still do.
    These 3 were not the best in the country at the time never mind the world. Herol Graham was.

    Could be but even though their careers sort of overlapped they sorta didn't. He retired or stopped boxing for over 4 years in the early 90's right when the other crew was in stride other then Watson whose career was cut short.

    When I think of the Fab 4 in relationship to British boxing its always been Benn, Eubank, Collins and Watson. When I think of the 4 Horseman on this side its Leonard, Hagler, Hearns and Duran. In reality I suppose it should be 5 because of Benitez and equally deserving the Fab 5
    thing is it was benn and eubank really

    yeah Watson was there and probably was the best out of the three but people really wanted to see the benn and eubank fights

    I don't think Collins can be added to that, he came along at the end when both fighters had had their day
    Interesting POV regarding Collins. He is/was tricky for me to rank/gauge. I always considered Collins to be the major threat to Roy during those times, but I'm not sure if if that was the case.

    I agree that Collins beat Benn and Eubank when both were past their best: Eubank never seemed the same to me after crippling Watson, and Benn seemed done after so many wars (the worst being the McLellan fight). That being said, Collins always struck me as that guy who overcame his limitations (speed/athleticism) with elite stamina, strength, mental toughness (I remember he would get hypnotized and that unsettled Eubank), and self confidence. In other words, I think of Collins as Carl Froch with slightly less punching power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
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    I've always felt that Watson was the most talented of the group. Still do.
    These 3 were not the best in the country at the time never mind the world. Herol Graham was.

    Could be but even though their careers sort of overlapped they sorta didn't. He retired or stopped boxing for over 4 years in the early 90's right when the other crew was in stride other then Watson whose career was cut short.

    When I think of the Fab 4 in relationship to British boxing its always been Benn, Eubank, Collins and Watson. When I think of the 4 Horseman on this side its Leonard, Hagler, Hearns and Duran. In reality I suppose it should be 5 because of Benitez and equally deserving the Fab 5
    thing is it was benn and eubank really

    yeah Watson was there and probably was the best out of the three but people really wanted to see the benn and eubank fights

    I don't think Collins can be added to that, he came along at the end when both fighters had had their day
    Interesting POV regarding Collins. He is/was tricky for me to rank/gauge. I always considered Collins to be the major threat to Roy during those times, but I'm not sure if if that was the case.

    I agree that Collins beat Benn and Eubank when both were past their best: Eubank never seemed the same to me after crippling Watson, and Benn seemed done after so many wars (the worst being the McLellan fight). That being said, Collins always struck me as that guy who overcame his limitations (speed/athleticism) with elite stamina, strength, mental toughness (I remember he would get hypnotized and that unsettled Eubank), and self confidence. In other words, I think of Collins as Carl Froch with slightly less punching power.
    I can kind of see the connection but totally different styles

    You could argue Eubank was still somewhere near his best when Collins beat him, he was still unbeaten after all

    but you are right, he was never the same after Watson and hadn't looked good at all in the lead up to Collins as far as I remember

    when Collins and benn fought benn was miles past his best, it was a couple of those end of career fights a lot of great fighters have
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    I've always felt that Watson was the most talented of the group. Still do.
    These 3 were not the best in the country at the time never mind the world. Herol Graham was.

    Could be but even though their careers sort of overlapped they sorta didn't. He retired or stopped boxing for over 4 years in the early 90's right when the other crew was in stride other then Watson whose career was cut short.

    When I think of the Fab 4 in relationship to British boxing its always been Benn, Eubank, Collins and Watson. When I think of the 4 Horseman on this side its Leonard, Hagler, Hearns and Duran. In reality I suppose it should be 5 because of Benitez and equally deserving the Fab 5
    thing is it was benn and eubank really

    yeah Watson was there and probably was the best out of the three but people really wanted to see the benn and eubank fights

    I don't think Collins can be added to that, he came along at the end when both fighters had had their day
    I suppose from a National perspective it was that way but not for me looking in from the outside.

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    Collins came to UK after getting his ass handed to him by top fighters in the US the Bodysnatcher and Reggie Johnson. No way could Collins live with Jones or Toney.
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    Collins came to UK after getting his ass handed to him by top fighters in the US the Bodysnatcher and Reggie Johnson. No way could Collins live with Jones or Toney.
    More and more Jones will have the on paper 'what ifs' with a few big name opportunities that he never pursued. Collins did well to run with and come within a point vs a far better and prime Johnson than Jones faced if anything.

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    Eubank would have won the rematch had the ref awarded Eubank a genuine knockdown from a body shot. Collins hoodwinked the ref in to thinking it was a slip by running up to him and giving him his gloves to wipe down.

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    After 2 fights in USA, Arum signed Benn with a 5 fight deal aiming to fight ultimately Leonard or Duran with minimum $250,000 per fight.

    Watson broke from Duff’s contract because he was not allowed to be his promoter and manger at the same time. This clause allowed Calzaghe to leave Duff too later on.

    Benn did not rip his boxing licence on TV but was in fact cardboard from a serial box.
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    Chris Eubank dropped the s from his name at the start of his boxing career.

    Peter Eubank beat Barry McGuigan and gave him his first professional defeat.

    Chris was stopped by a body shot in his first amateur match.

    Eubank never said boxing was a mugs game, his exact words were “Boxing at a very low and journeyman level is a mugs game. Taking shots around the head for a pittance is without doubt a thankless task and a mugs game”.

    When Benn fought Eubank, G Man was the number 1 contender but because it was a new title and wanted to establish itself couple with G Man not having the influence Nigel fought Eubank instead. Chris never contemplated fighting G Man.

    Chris Eubank accent is fake and his claim to be eloquent is all an act as he had to ask reporters if the big words he was using were correctly used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Chris Eubank dropped the s from his name at the start of his boxing career.

    Peter Eubank beat Barry McGuigan and gave him his first professional defeat.

    Chris was stopped by a body shot in his first amateur match.

    Eubank never said boxing was a mugs game, his exact words were “Boxing at a very low and journeyman level is a mugs game. Taking shots around the head for a pittance is without doubt a thankless task and a mugs game”.

    When Benn fought Eubank, G Man was the number 1 contender but because it was a new title and wanted to establish itself couple with G Man not having the influence Nigel fought Eubank instead. Chris never contemplated fighting G Man.

    Chris Eubank accent is fake and his claim to be eloquent is all an act as he had to ask reporters if the big words he was using were correctly used.
    Explosive revalations!

    Im now suspecting he never really needed that monacle either!

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