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    Default Re: Eubank, Benn, Watson and the last golden era of British boxing.

    After 2 fights in USA, Arum signed Benn with a 5 fight deal aiming to fight ultimately Leonard or Duran with minimum $250,000 per fight.

    Watson broke from Duff’s contract because he was not allowed to be his promoter and manger at the same time. This clause allowed Calzaghe to leave Duff too later on.

    Benn did not rip his boxing licence on TV but was in fact cardboard from a serial box.
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    Chris Eubank dropped the s from his name at the start of his boxing career.

    Peter Eubank beat Barry McGuigan and gave him his first professional defeat.

    Chris was stopped by a body shot in his first amateur match.

    Eubank never said boxing was a mugs game, his exact words were “Boxing at a very low and journeyman level is a mugs game. Taking shots around the head for a pittance is without doubt a thankless task and a mugs game”.

    When Benn fought Eubank, G Man was the number 1 contender but because it was a new title and wanted to establish itself couple with G Man not having the influence Nigel fought Eubank instead. Chris never contemplated fighting G Man.

    Chris Eubank accent is fake and his claim to be eloquent is all an act as he had to ask reporters if the big words he was using were correctly used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Chris Eubank dropped the s from his name at the start of his boxing career.

    Peter Eubank beat Barry McGuigan and gave him his first professional defeat.

    Chris was stopped by a body shot in his first amateur match.

    Eubank never said boxing was a mugs game, his exact words were “Boxing at a very low and journeyman level is a mugs game. Taking shots around the head for a pittance is without doubt a thankless task and a mugs game”.

    When Benn fought Eubank, G Man was the number 1 contender but because it was a new title and wanted to establish itself couple with G Man not having the influence Nigel fought Eubank instead. Chris never contemplated fighting G Man.

    Chris Eubank accent is fake and his claim to be eloquent is all an act as he had to ask reporters if the big words he was using were correctly used.
    Explosive revalations!

    Im now suspecting he never really needed that monacle either!

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    Did Eubank fight different after something happened to wastson i am not sure what it was i really only know about Calzghe at smw well. Was there something that happened that eneded up changing the way that guy fought like he was tad more passive or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Did Eubank fight different after something happened to wastson i am not sure what it was i really only know about Calzghe at smw well. Was there something that happened that eneded up changing the way that guy fought like he was tad more passive or something.
    That was the popular perception, and I certainly remember when he was beating up Henry Wharton and asking for the ref to stop the fight because he didn't want to pull the trigger. But tbf , Wharton , although getting well beat, was a tough fucker and was taking it fairly well .
    Many people, and Eubank himself would say that this is why he got beat by Collins, but the Collins fights were quite a long time after the Watson fight, and he'd fought quite a few guys inbetween, including a draw in the Benn rematch (which I thought he lost btw.)
    it probably did affect him a bit, but he kept going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Did Eubank fight different after something happened to wastson i am not sure what it was i really only know about Calzghe at smw well. Was there something that happened that eneded up changing the way that guy fought like he was tad more passive or something.
    That was the popular perception, and I certainly remember when he was beating up Henry Wharton and asking for the ref to stop the fight because he didn't want to pull the trigger. But tbf , Wharton , although getting well beat, was a tough fucker and was taking it fairly well .
    Many people, and Eubank himself would say that this is why he got beat by Collins, but the Collins fights were quite a long time after the Watson fight, and he'd fought quite a few guys inbetween, including a draw in the Benn rematch (which I thought he lost btw.)
    it probably did affect him a bit, but he kept going.
    Quite a long time?

    It was only 3.5 years later!

    Is there a time limit where putting someone in a coma stops affecting you?

    He had 14 ffights inbetween and bar the stunning one punch KO of Jarvis they all went 12 rounds.

    I think he was still affected, you only need to see his reaction to Collins sagging through the ropes when he dropped him in the tenth. Plus with that many world title fights travelling all over and all going 12 in such a short period I think he was a bit jaded and maybe struggling with the weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Did Eubank fight different after something happened to wastson i am not sure what it was i really only know about Calzghe at smw well. Was there something that happened that eneded up changing the way that guy fought like he was tad more passive or something.
    That was the popular perception, and I certainly remember when he was beating up Henry Wharton and asking for the ref to stop the fight because he didn't want to pull the trigger. But tbf , Wharton , although getting well beat, was a tough fucker and was taking it fairly well .
    Many people, and Eubank himself would say that this is why he got beat by Collins, but the Collins fights were quite a long time after the Watson fight, and he'd fought quite a few guys inbetween, including a draw in the Benn rematch (which I thought he lost btw.)
    it probably did affect him a bit, but he kept going.
    Quite a long time?

    Yes, in a boxing career, that is quite a long time , is it not?

    It was only 3.5 years later!

    Correct, read above comment.

    Is there a time limit where putting someone in a coma stops affecting you?

    Absolutely not. like I said in my post , there were signs when he fought Wharton that it affected him.

    He had 14 ffights inbetween and bar the stunning one punch KO of Jarvis they all went 12 rounds.

    Correct again, your point is ? bear in mind, I didn't say it never affected him.

    I think he was still affected, you only need to see his reaction to Collins sagging through the ropes when he dropped him in the tenth. Plus with that many world title fights travelling all over and all going 12 in such a short period I think he was a bit jaded and maybe struggling with the weight.

    I'm not disagreeing with you , infact if you read the last line of my post (I know you find it difficult to concentrate enough to read my "essays") , you would realise that I said it probably did affect him a bit , of course it would. However , there were probably other factors as well , which you admitted in the last line of your post!
    I'm struggling to see why you questioned my post, apart from the predictable irrational defence of one of your Bum Chums as per usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Did Eubank fight different after something happened to wastson i am not sure what it was i really only know about Calzghe at smw well. Was there something that happened that eneded up changing the way that guy fought like he was tad more passive or something.
    As Ross said it did make a difference and most of his fights went to points after that and he did not want to finish off his opponent. I read in his book that it did affect him and some woman shouted at him that it should have been him in that coma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Did Eubank fight different after something happened to wastson i am not sure what it was i really only know about Calzghe at smw well. Was there something that happened that eneded up changing the way that guy fought like he was tad more passive or something.
    As Ross said it did make a difference and most of his fights went to points after that and he did not want to finish off his opponent. I read in his book that it did affect him and some woman shouted at him that it should have been him in that coma.
    There is also a lesser known incident that his range rovers handbrake failed when he parked it and it rolled in to a road worker and killed them. Hes had some bad luck has Eubank and doesnt deserve alot of the crap he gets. Alot of it is jealousy. British people cant help themselves but berate anyone who believes in themselves and has the bollocks to dare to put their money where their mouth is and then go and win!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Did Eubank fight different after something happened to wastson i am not sure what it was i really only know about Calzghe at smw well. Was there something that happened that eneded up changing the way that guy fought like he was tad more passive or something.
    As Ross said it did make a difference and most of his fights went to points after that and he did not want to finish off his opponent. I read in his book that it did affect him and some woman shouted at him that it should have been him in that coma.
    There is also a lesser known incident that his range rovers handbrake failed when he parked it and it rolled in to a road worker and killed them. Hes had some bad luck has Eubank and doesnt deserve alot of the crap he gets. Alot of it is jealousy. British people cant help themselves but berate anyone who believes in themselves and has the bollocks to dare to put their money where their mouth is and then go and win!
    I heard about that death but was not 100% sure. That is very sad.

    Even against Carl Thompson he did not finish him off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Did Eubank fight different after something happened to wastson i am not sure what it was i really only know about Calzghe at smw well. Was there something that happened that eneded up changing the way that guy fought like he was tad more passive or something.
    As Ross said it did make a difference and most of his fights went to points after that and he did not want to finish off his opponent. I read in his book that it did affect him and some woman shouted at him that it should have been him in that coma.
    There is also a lesser known incident that his range rovers handbrake failed when he parked it and it rolled in to a road worker and killed them. Hes had some bad luck has Eubank and doesnt deserve alot of the crap he gets. Alot of it is jealousy. British people cant help themselves but berate anyone who believes in themselves and has the bollocks to dare to put their money where their mouth is and then go and win!
    First and foremost, I don't expect you to read all of this because you probably haven't got sufficient powers of concentration.
    Secondly, I am not a Eubank Sr. Hater. One of my friends met him and said that he was a really nice guy. Another guy I know fought him in the Amateurs and he remembers him now and at one of those boxing charity do's , insisted that he sat on the top table with him and some other top ex Pro's. So he's probably a sound guy.
    However, I don't understand "what crap he gets". I think he's a bit of a sap at times, but that's for show.
    I have to say his Son is a complete twat though, and that isn't put on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Did Eubank fight different after something happened to wastson i am not sure what it was i really only know about Calzghe at smw well. Was there something that happened that eneded up changing the way that guy fought like he was tad more passive or something.
    As Ross said it did make a difference and most of his fights went to points after that and he did not want to finish off his opponent. I read in his book that it did affect him and some woman shouted at him that it should have been him in that coma.
    There is also a lesser known incident that his range rovers handbrake failed when he parked it and it rolled in to a road worker and killed them. Hes had some bad luck has Eubank and doesnt deserve alot of the crap he gets. Alot of it is jealousy. British people cant help themselves but berate anyone who believes in themselves and has the bollocks to dare to put their money where their mouth is and then go and win!
    Eubank lost control of his range rover as it ran into a building site and killed a labourer.

    Someone sprayed murderer on his house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Did Eubank fight different after something happened to wastson i am not sure what it was i really only know about Calzghe at smw well. Was there something that happened that eneded up changing the way that guy fought like he was tad more passive or something.
    I had forgotten that Eubank had knocked down Malinga but did not stop him he also knocked down Ray Close and hurt Collins but could not finish them
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    A lot of people say the reason that he lost at cw was that he was afraid to pull the trigger and end it. I have not seen the fights but he might of had Thompson out of there if he went for the kill is what i hear a lot of when that fight is talked about going to have to watch it later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    A lot of people say the reason that he lost at cw was that he was afraid to pull the trigger and end it. I have not seen the fights but he might of had Thompson out of there if he went for the kill is what i hear a lot of when that fight is talked about going to have to watch it later.
    The first round of the first Eubank v Thompson fight Eubank looks like he might struggle with the strength of Thompson but the next few rounds hes so sharp! He drops Thompson a couple of times and one of them yes he does back off and then Thompsons strength starts telling later on until Eubanks eye swells completely shut and Eubank loses a close fight on points. They rematched just 3 months later but it wasnt long enough for that eye as it closed again and ahead on points Eubank is stopped for the first time when the doctor pulls him out.

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