The 2nd British fighter to win the Ring magazine fighter of the year is.....

[erics44]

That's hard to believe when you think on it. The first? At the rate at which Brits are collecting trinkets he won't be the last. On a side, Canelo v Kirkland ko of year says more about inner promotion than it does anything. Who didn't see that detonation coming?

Exactly what I was saying about fighters with connections getting unfairly rated higher.

Makes Tyson winning the top spot even better as hes the least connected fighter and probably most hated on that list. He has been awarded on pure merit.

yeah but how many K2 fighters have made it on the list

or even german based fighters

perhaps theres a bias against them

and now their crown jewel was just toppled the ring are rubbing their faces in it

I don't really mean that btw

im not really arsed

im glad wlad is no longer champ, what a large part of my adult life without a credible HW division

fury deserves the award just for putting an end to that

[ross]

Its interesting that the heavyweights have done historically very well. Most of the multiple winners have been heavyweights.

36 times a heavyweight has won it. Only two years in the 70's did a nne heavyweight win it. It was shared between Ali, Frazier and Foreman.

Tyson unifies against Wilder and wins fighter of the year this year also.

[Fenster]

You can assess the information different to that.

Fury is the first heavyweight to win for 19 years.

Maybe it shows how weak the heavyweight division has been in recent times, or maybe how strong the heavyweight division was in the past, or maybe the heavyweight division is no longer seen as the glamour divison, as it definitely was in the past.

[ross]

You can assess the information different to that.

Fury is the first heavyweight to win for 19 years.

Maybe it shows how weak the heavyweight division has been in recent times, or maybe how strong the heavyweight division was in the past, or maybe the heavyweight division is no longer seen as the glamour divison, as it definitely was in the past.

I personally think its as much to do with America having little in the way of world class heavies over recent years. You need americans in their for their networks to throw promotion behind and create that "glamour" again.

[erics44]

You can assess the information different to that.

Fury is the first heavyweight to win for 19 years.

Maybe it shows how weak the heavyweight division has been in recent times, or maybe how strong the heavyweight division was in the past, or maybe the heavyweight division is no longer seen as the glamour divison, as it definitely was in the past.

I personally think its as much to do with America having little in the way of world class heavies over recent years. You need americans in their for their networks to throw promotion behind and create that "glamour" again.

I think its because wlad klit was allowed to cheat for so long

had they had have applied the rules to his fights his reign would have been a lot shorter

in fact he may never have won it when he did, he should have been dq'd early in the sam peter fight

maybe then other stars would have emerged

[ross]

You can assess the information different to that.

Fury is the first heavyweight to win for 19 years.

Maybe it shows how weak the heavyweight division has been in recent times, or maybe how strong the heavyweight division was in the past, or maybe the heavyweight division is no longer seen as the glamour divison, as it definitely was in the past.

I personally think its as much to do with America having little in the way of world class heavies over recent years. You need americans in their for their networks to throw promotion behind and create that "glamour" again.

I think its because wlad klit was allowed to cheat for so long

had they had have applied the rules to his fights his reign would have been a lot shorter

in fact he may never have won it when he did, he should have been dq'd early in the sam peter fight

maybe then other stars would have emerged

Yes he did hug and hold but if your good enough you shouldnt be allowing him to. Tyson didnt but everyone else did for the past 11 years.

Even Jennings an american fighter fighting in america with the ref not allowing it couldnt do anything and spent too much of the fight being too defensive to win any rounds. Wlad hasnt suddently become a one trick pony just because Fury was massively better than anyone wanted to give him credit for. If the fight had been postponed until February the general opinion would still be that Wlad is too good for everyone.

[erics44]

You can assess the information different to that.

Fury is the first heavyweight to win for 19 years.

Maybe it shows how weak the heavyweight division has been in recent times, or maybe how strong the heavyweight division was in the past, or maybe the heavyweight division is no longer seen as the glamour divison, as it definitely was in the past.

I personally think its as much to do with America having little in the way of world class heavies over recent years. You need americans in their for their networks to throw promotion behind and create that "glamour" again.

I think its because wlad klit was allowed to cheat for so long

had they had have applied the rules to his fights his reign would have been a lot shorter

in fact he may never have won it when he did, he should have been dq'd early in the sam peter fight

maybe then other stars would have emerged

Yes he did hug and hold but if your good enough you shouldnt be allowing him to. Tyson didnt but everyone else did for the past 11 years.

Even Jennings an american fighter fighting in america with the ref not allowing it couldnt do anything and spent too much of the fight being too defensive to win any rounds. Wlad hasnt suddently become a one trick pony just because Fury was massively better than anyone wanted to give him credit for. If the fight had been postponed until February the general opinion would still be that Wlad is too good for everyone.

that's stupid logic

holding and leaning is against the rules

its like saying, he kicked a lot but if you were good enough you shouldn't have allowed him to do it

most HW were smaller than him so it was miles harder for them to stop him doing it than it was for a bigger fella

[Dark Lord Al]

You can assess the information different to that.

Fury is the first heavyweight to win for 19 years.

Maybe it shows how weak the heavyweight division has been in recent times, or maybe how strong the heavyweight division was in the past, or maybe the heavyweight division is no longer seen as the glamour divison, as it definitely was in the past.

I personally think its as much to do with America having little in the way of world class heavies over recent years. You need americans in their for their networks to throw promotion behind and create that "glamour" again.

Bingo !