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    Default Re: Prime RJJ's weaknesses.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Have problems with guys who fought awkwardly and had big punch and length so most likely i see Spinks owning that fight. Not to mention Spinks was undefeated at the weight and was not even put down in a lhw fight Roy is up there though only Foster and Spinks are ahead of him. Also he would never have the best longevity because his style pretty much all had to do with his reflex and speed which is the first to go with a fighter. I mean all you have to do is look how he aged when he lost his speed he was ok fighter so he went from great to goodish faster then those fighters that learned the craft.
    Tough for me to see a reasonable argument for ranking Roy ahead of Ezzard Charles and Archie Moore. I would rank the light heavy ATGs like this:
    1. Ezzard Charles
    2. Archie Moore
    3. Michael Spinks
    4. Roy Jones jr.
    5. Bob Foster

    I can see a case for swapping 4 & 5, as well as cases for ranking Tunney and Billy Conn above my 4 & 5. I don't really see an argument for Joey Maxim, Virgil Hill, or Michael Moorer over any of the previously mentioned fighters, but I've heard knowledgable fans make those arguments, so maybe I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
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    In retrospect, his fights were an event .
    Your not wrong mate.
    (No need to watch the fight - just watch from the very start!)
    Brilliant post.

    Never saw all the stuff before this fight before!

    Method man is roys twin.

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    Default Re: Prime RJJ's weaknesses.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Have problems with guys who fought awkwardly and had big punch and length so most likely i see Spinks owning that fight. Not to mention Spinks was undefeated at the weight and was not even put down in a lhw fight Roy is up there though only Foster and Spinks are ahead of him. Also he would never have the best longevity because his style pretty much all had to do with his reflex and speed which is the first to go with a fighter. I mean all you have to do is look how he aged when he lost his speed he was ok fighter so he went from great to goodish faster then those fighters that learned the craft.
    Tough for me to see a reasonable argument for ranking Roy ahead of Ezzard Charles and Archie Moore. I would rank the light heavy ATGs like this:
    1. Ezzard Charles
    2. Archie Moore
    3. Michael Spinks
    4. Roy Jones jr.
    5. Bob Foster

    I can see a case for swapping 4 & 5, as well as cases for ranking Tunney and Billy Conn above my 4 & 5. I don't really see an argument for Joey Maxim, Virgil Hill, or Michael Moorer over any of the previously mentioned fighters, but I've heard knowledgable fans make those arguments, so maybe I'm wrong.
    I have Spinks at the top spot he had 10 title defenses was only lhw to near be beaten at that weight. Not to mention beat great comp with really good champs also while he was there. Spinks was strait up Dominate i men no one ever put him down at lhw and he looked the most unbeatable at the weight i have ever seen. I mean there a reason why Hagler fought guys that who were coming up in weight because no way in hell he ever get in the ring with Spinks because Spinks would own to hard.

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    Default Re: Prime RJJ's weaknesses.

    The big weakness as was stated early was that his lack of craft was a big issue as he began to slow down looking at Hopkins,Ali and Holyfeild that becomes even more clear. Roy was great but his big names were wide and far apart and a lot of kinda eh guys in between.

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