Have The WBA Just stripped Fury too? Look at this!!

[ross]

I never said Fury wasn't doing well.

If he's the next Mayweather - as you confidently claim - then he's gonna make hundreds of millions and reign unbeaten for donkey's years. Therefore, to make the dough, he needs Las Vegas casinos and American PPV TV money.

So far he's never single-handedly headlined/carried a major show in Britain. The 50,000 German fans were Wlad's, hence why Fury has to go back to Germany. It was reported that AJ-Whyte did more PPV buys than Fury-Wlad.

He's definitely the most talked about fighter in your head.

Where did I say hes the next Mayweather?

Hes already one up on Mayweather in his career path anyway, beating Klitschko is better than beating Gerano Hernandez.

I said his career will build like Mayweathers (you can clearly see I said that but chose to interperate ad you please) where not many took much notice at the start of their career but as time goes on he will be huge.

[Primo Carnera]

I never said Fury wasn't doing well.

If he's the next Mayweather - as you confidently claim - then he's gonna make hundreds of millions and reign unbeaten for donkey's years. Therefore, to make the dough, he needs Las Vegas casinos and American PPV TV money.

So far he's never single-handedly headlined/carried a major show in Britain. The 50,000 German fans were Wlad's, hence why Fury has to go back to Germany. It was reported that AJ-Whyte did more PPV buys than Fury-Wlad.

He's definitely the most talked about fighter in your head.

Where did I say hes the next Mayweather?

Hes already one up on Mayweather in his career path anyway, beating Klitschko is better than beating Gerano Hernandez.

I said his career will build like Mayweathers (you can clearly see I said that but chose to interperate ad you please) where not many took much notice at the start of their career but as time goes on he will be huge.

Trust me , Floyd was always a superstar in the making and when he turned pro, everyone took notice. He was World Champ in his 18th Fight and within 2 years of turning pro and at a younger age than Tyson Fury as well as winning an Olympic Bronze medal , where he was controversially robbed.
I don't know how or where he is one up on Mayweather's career path?
please note , I'm not making the comparison, you are. I'm just justifying my comments.

[ross]

Mayweather was a world champ for 8 years before he was pay par view material and then he needed Gattis name to do that.

[Dark Lord Al]

Come on we all know HW boxing has always generated the most money as a rule than any other divisions , more non boxing fans are more likely to know who is HW champ than a lower weight all time great.

[Primo Carnera]

Mayweather was a world champ for 8 years before he was pay par view material and then he needed Gattis name to do that.

That's a very tenuous and embarrassing comparison and shows a distinct lack of rationale.
But to answer it, You , I and everyone on this forum knows that there is a world of difference being ppv in the UK and ppv in the States. They're not as daft as to shell out money for old rope like we do.
I don't think Bellew v Cleverley would be ppv in the States.
Very , very , few fighters are ppv in the States.
If that is where Fury is outscoring Floyd , well , keep trying, eh Ross!

[Master]

Mayweather was a world champ for 8 years before he was pay par view material and then he needed Gattis name to do that.

That's a very tenuous and embarrassing comparison and shows a distinct lack of rationale.
But to answer it, You , I and everyone on this forum knows that there is a world of difference being ppv in the UK and ppv in the States. They're not as daft as to shell out money for old rope like we do.
I don't think Bellew v Cleverley would be ppv in the States.
Very , very , few fighters are ppv in the States.
If that is where Fury is outscoring Floyd , well , keep trying, eh Ross!

They have to create a ppv star, that is how the business model works, even if they are not worthy. Joshua is being moulded in that role over here.

[Fenster]

Where did I say hes the next Mayweather?

Hes already one up on Mayweather in his career path anyway, beating Klitschko is better than beating Gerano Hernandez.

I said his career will build like Mayweathers (you can clearly see I said that but chose to interperate ad you please) where not many took much notice at the start of their career but as time goes on he will be huge.

You made the comparison between Fury and Floyd.

So what you meant was - in say 10 years time Fury will be boxing's biggest superstar, still unbeaten and the richest fighter on the planet? Fair enough, time will tell.

At the moment Fury has to prove he's not Buster Douglas.

I'd stop bringing up the PPV thing if I was you. If you're gonna judge fighters by the speed they achieved PPV status then AJ has become a PPV fighter in 2 years. Fury is yet to be the A-side on a major promotion.

[Dark Lord Al]

Where did I say hes the next Mayweather?

Hes already one up on Mayweather in his career path anyway, beating Klitschko is better than beating Gerano Hernandez.

I said his career will build like Mayweathers (you can clearly see I said that but chose to interperate ad you please) where not many took much notice at the start of their career but as time goes on he will be huge.

You made the comparison between Fury and Floyd.

So what you meant was - in say 10 years time Fury will be boxing's biggest superstar, still unbeaten and the richest fighter on the planet? Fair enough, time will tell.

At the moment Fury has to prove he's not Buster Douglas.

I'd stop bringing up the PPV thing if I was you. If you're gonna judge fighters by the speed they achieved PPV status then AJ has become a PPV fighter in 2 years. Fury is yet to be the A-side on a major promotion.

Yes he has to prove it wasn't a flash in the pan like buster, let's face it wlad landed 4punches per round and went 12 rounds , this is a fighter who had been stopped 3 times in the past and the last time was 11 years ago.
You can only beat who is in front of you but wlad is 39 not exactly in his prime so let's not get carried away yet.

[ross]

There is a massive difference between Mike Tysons camp in the lead up to Douglas and Wladimir Klitschkos camp for Fury.

Mike Tyson was all over the place, had sacked the tram that brought him success, was shagging prostitutes, getting drunk and high. Not training properly, getting piblicly dropped by sparring partners.

Klitschko on the other hand had all the reporters dismissing Furys chamces after watching the champ train, seeing all the facilities and sparring partners money can buy. Wladimir was focussed and professional and supposedly unbeatable. Big, big difference!

Wlad wasnt old overnight, he was still quick on his feet. He just couldnt figure out how to hit Tyson without getting hit himself pure and simple. As I said it would be before hand.

Only those who thought Tyson didnt stand a chance are the ones comsidering it may have been a fluke becuase just like Klitschko couldnt on the nigt, they just cant get their heads round it.

Also, now we are supposed to believe the division is wide open. If your counting belts and not actually who is clearly the best then maybe. Before the fight everyone said Klitschko beats everyone, now Tyson has beaten him people still think Tyson is easily beatable regardless of how effortlessly he beat Klitschko.

[Dark Lord Al]

Read the stats and facts , fury landed an average of 7 punches per round and went the distance with a guy who had been stopped 3 times , 11 years later he loses on points?
Wlad did underestimate fury for sure , however landing 4 punches per round and finishing losing 115-112 isn't a champion going out on his shield.
Wlad was pathetic in his losing effort , the fight was a stinker and as I've said the most expensive 12 Ppv for punches landed ever.

[Fenster]

One good win doesn't make you an all-time great. Upsets have happened throughout history and always will. To become an all-time great you have to back it up, you need a body of work.

Unless Fury backs up his win by beating his fellow top rivals he'll be seen as nothing more than a one hit wonder - hence Buster Douglas.

[Master]

One good win doesn't make you an all-time great. Upsets have happened throughout history and always will. To become an all-time great you have to back it up, you need a body of work.

Unless Fury backs up his win by beating his fellow top rivals he'll be seen as nothing more than a one hit wonder - hence Buster Douglas.

A better analogy would be Leon Spinks should he lose.