Danny Garcia vs Amir Khan, ordered By WBC!

[Primo Carnera]

I quite like Garcia but don't see him beating Khan think Khan might even stop Garcia

Khan will not try to stop him this time, that was where he went wrong last time. With Virgil, it is points victory.

This is the main change.

Virgil hunter.

Khan is undefeated with virgil..he will possibly outbox garcia this time by boxing smart...garcia and angel don't really want this fight.

Well Garcia is undefeated with his Dad. They wanted the fight before, they said exactly how Khan would get beat, and they want the fight again and their gameplan will be the same and the result will be the same, IF Khan actually goes ahead with it.

Garcia does not want this fight and I would not be shocked to see him vacate than take this fight. I think Khan wins a rematch easily. He could win a shut out if he doesnt stop Garcia. Only way Garcia can win is by KO and I dont thin he'll catch Khan this time.

I cannot believe how many people have jumped on the "Amir Khan is a high class quality Boxer" bandwagon, even to the extent that apparently Garcia doesn't want the fight!
Tell me, wtf has Garcia got to worry about? I've heard nonsense like:
"in the first fight , Khan was accumulating rounds" - really ? Garcia plugged him in the 2nd Round and KO'd him in the 4th . Accumulating rounds my ass!
"Khan will outbox him and Garcia will be bloodied and stopped" - When has Garcia been stopped?
"Garcia doesn't want the fight" - Why wouldn't he want the fight? he knocked the cunt out last time.
"Garcia will give up his title" - What? why would he give up his title against someone who has no proven power in this division. he's hardly likely to be scared is he? if he gave up his title, he gives up the potential to be an elite fighter in the division and earn optimum money. he's gonna do that because of Khan? come on.
"Khan will keep Garcia away for 12 rounds" - answer me this ? if Khan is such a technically gifted boxer, how come he couldn't stop Chris Algieri coming forward at him and running him down?
Not Floyd, not Manny, not an elite fighter, but a fighter who had been floored 8, yes 8 times in his 2 previous fights. Khan made him look like a World beater!
I suggest people scrutinise Khan's record very carefully before they start elevating him to God Like Status!

Garcias Dad interviewed saying they dont want the fight and said even though its been ordered the fight isnt happening. Obviously you have to take what he says with a pinch of salt but it looks pretty clear they are trying to find a different option.

In the interview he explained they did not want the fight because the 1st was a complete mismatch Khan won round 1 and opened a cut in round 2. He got tagged in round 3 and never recovered. After round 2 Khan was a 50s on fav for the fight.

You obviously dont like Khan thats fair enough. I think hes an exceptional boxer but his chin and machismo lets him down sometimes. Getting a handle of that and he can beat anyone. Garcia has a punchers chance against him, thats all in my opinion. Obviously against Khan a punchers chance is better than against most other fighters but still have Khan as the strong fav.

Again its been ordered by the WBC so it should happen. The only reason it wouldnt is Garcia ducking him. Can we agree on that much? Its worth more money than any other fight in the division bar Floyd and Pac so I suppose if he dropped the title to fight one of them it would be acceptable.

Actually Silks, no we can't mate. If Khan decided to fight Brook, it wouldn't go ahead. And I bet nobody would then say Khan ducked him. If Brook tried to get a unification with Garcia it probably wouldn't either.
You're right , I don't like Khan. But it's because he is so overrated by himself and many others. Also, he is throwing a career away and almost becoming a better fighter without fighting . It's bullshit really and he has an unacceptable opinion of his importance.
If you look at his career and what has actually happened IN THE RING since he lost to Prescott, it's not as outstanding as one would believe.
We'll have to agree to differ on this one.

[Silkeyjoe]

I agree he hasnt done anything special.

He beat Maidana which was good considering what Maidana went onto do after. He beat Judah who gave Garcia a tough fight. Felt he got robbed against Peterson. Beat Collazo which is nothing special but felt he did it more impressively than Thurman (who I fell is the most overrated in the div) and beat Devon Alexander who had previously been ducked by top fighters in the div.

I dont think anyone is debating Khan ducking Brook. Ive said it for years along with most on the forum. But if Garcia vacates it looks a clear duck to me. Porter and Thurman would be acceptable but arent available. Either is Pac or Bradley and that only really leaves Spence, Vasquez, Peterson or Vargas. Spence and Vasquez be very good fights but couldnt see Garcia taking them and Peterson and Vargas step down from Khan imo.

[Primo Carnera]

I agree he hasnt done anything special.

He beat Maidana which was good considering what Maidana went onto do after. He beat Judah who gave Garcia a tough fight. Felt he got robbed against Peterson. Beat Collazo which is nothing special but felt he did it more impressively than Thurman (who I fell is the most overrated in the div) and beat Devon Alexander who had previously been ducked by top fighters in the div.

I dont think anyone is debating Khan ducking Brook. Ive said it for years along with most on the forum. But if Garcia vacates it looks a clear duck to me. Porter and Thurman would be acceptable but arent available. Either is Pac or Bradley and that only really leaves Spence, Vasquez, Peterson or Vargas. Spence and Vasquez be very good fights but couldnt see Garcia taking them and Peterson and Vargas step down from Khan imo.

If you read the statement from Angel Garcia, and my post above, Garcia won't be vacating.
Maidana - was a good win, probably his best. Still nearly managed to lose it in the 10th, but he won, good win.
Judah - with all due respect everybody decent beats Judah, don't they?
Peterson - I thought it was pretty even, but the points deduction swung it Peterson's way. Agree or disagree with the points deductions , but I'd hardly call it a robbery. You have to remember , that before the fight , people thought it was a pretty routine and easy defence. So even if he won a close fight, it's hardly a great performance.
Collazo - I won't bore you with my views on that one.
Alexander - never been known as a puncher and he is not a top level fighter .he was at one time, but not when Khan beat him.

[Primo Carnera]

"Why would a guy vacate a belt he just won because he does not see the need to fight a guy he already ko'd?"
Very good question . Answer....
He wouldn't vacate his belt. That's what his Dad said in that interview. HE WOULDN'T VACATE THE BELT!

[Master]

"Why would a guy vacate a belt he just won because he does not see the need to fight a guy he already ko'd?"
Very good question . Answer....
He wouldn't vacate his belt. That's what his Dad said in that interview. HE WOULDN'T VACATE THE BELT!

Lets see, action speak louder than words.

[Primo Carnera]

"Why would a guy vacate a belt he just won because he does not see the need to fight a guy he already ko'd?"
Very good question . Answer....
He wouldn't vacate his belt. That's what his Dad said in that interview. HE WOULDN'T VACATE THE BELT!

Lets see, action speak louder than words.

So let's get this right......
So he never said DG would vacate?
And he never said he was scared of Khan?
But we should look past what he said and make our own spin on it . Ah, ok then.

[Kirkland Laing]

Khan versus Gercia is worth whatever Haymon is willing to pay for it. Seeing as both guys are signed to Haymon and so nobody else can bid up the fight Haymon can probably pay about $2.5 million split in Garcia's favour and that's it.

If Khan loses, and it's definitely possible he gets timed/chinned again, he has to have at least one rebuilding fight and hope Brook keeps winning in the meantime before he can go for the payday. And he may not get more than 50/50 with another loss. Another loss knocks the fight's PPV/ticket marketablility in Britain too.

The WBC would be fine letting Khan/Garcia both have one fight more before they fight each other. Money talks. Is Khan really going to risk his biggest career payday to fight Garcia for a nettage of around half a million quid? He's not getting any younger, he's obviously after big money fights and as he gets older and his time without a belt gets longer is he really going to keep ignoring the big money fight he can have?