Groves-Di Luica/Ryder-Khomitsky/Hibbert-Martin - Saturday/Sky Sports. Fact.

[Silkeyjoe]

Id say Groves beat Murray pretty easily. Murray doesnt have the power to trouble Groves and stylewise looks perfect for Groves. Groves Callum would be a fantastic fight.

[Primo Carnera]

First of all, I like Martyn Murray , and he's got to earn the best money he can because it's his career, so I don't blame him. But , he didn't deserve a world title shot at SMW because he's beaten nobody at this weight, and he doesn't deserve a shot at Groves. I think it's a backward step for Groves and a lose-lose fight.
Murray should be fighting the likes of Paul Smith, Buglioni , Feigenbutz , Rebrasse.
The only 2 Brits I think Groves should be looking at are DeGale for obvious reasons and I hate to say it , but Callum Smith . I think the Smith fight is risky for both of them (more for Groves) , hence I don't think it'll happen until one of them is World Champ.
The reason I hate to say it is because I reckon both of these fighters are near the top of the division and one would have to take a backward step, and I like them both.
But, like Silkeyjoe said, it would be a great scrap.

[Silkeyjoe]

First of all, I like Martyn Murray , and he's got to earn the best money he can because it's his career, so I don't blame him. But , he didn't deserve a world title shot at SMW because he's beaten nobody at this weight, and he doesn't deserve a shot at Groves. I think it's a backward step for Groves and a lose-lose fight.
Murray should be fighting the likes of Paul Smith, Buglioni , Feigenbutz , Rebrasse.
The only 2 Brits I think Groves should be looking at are DeGale for obvious reasons and I hate to say it , but Callum Smith . I think the Smith fight is risky for both of them (more for Groves) , hence I don't think it'll happen until one of them is World Champ.
The reason I hate to say it is because I reckon both of these fighters are near the top of the division and one would have to take a backward step, and I like them both.
But, like Silkeyjoe said, it would be a great scrap.

No facts to back this up but I would guess Groves has a decent ranking as he just lost a world title fight. If this is the case it makes sense for Groves as could be an eliminator or even final eliminator.

[Dia bando]

Groves is a good 6 round fighter after that he struggles he does seem to run out of gas, will he be Champion yes maybe the division is not blessed with any outstanding talent.
George could just be a nearly man as some are but boxing is a funny old game.

[ross]

Groves is a good 6 round fighter after that he struggles he does seem to run out of gas, will he be Champion yes maybe the division is not blessed with any outstanding talent.
George could just be a nearly man as some are but boxing is a funny old game.

He tries to be dynamic and a puncher and suffers as a result. Like a marathon bolting off at the head of the pack only to start flagging halfway through rather than knowing how to calm down a bit and pace himself better.

[Fenster]

Not sure why Murray doesn't "deserve" to fight Groves? He lost two tight decisions against top world-class fighters and got chinned by Golovkin (although taking him 11 rounds is worth a medal in itself).

Groves has a win over DeGale when they were novices, got ironed by Froch and lost against Jack.

Murray doesn't need to prove anything to get a fight with anyone at supermiddle. Especially someone that doesn't even have a "world" title. He's not a puncher and doesn't have the most exciting style but - barring the freak that is GGG - he's not a walkover for anyone at middle/supermiddle.

[Primo Carnera]

Not sure why Murray doesn't "deserve" to fight Groves? He lost two tight decisions against top world-class fighters and got chinned by Golovkin (although taking him 11 rounds is worth a medal in itself).

Groves has a win over DeGale when they were novices, got ironed by Froch and lost against Jack.

Murray doesn't need to prove anything to get a fight with anyone at supermiddle. Especially someone that doesn't even have a "world" title. He's not a puncher and doesn't have the most exciting style but - barring the freak that is GGG - he's not a walkover for anyone at middle/supermiddle.

It's not so much about "deserving Groves" , per say. It's more about
a.) as far as SMW Goes, he isn't on Groves level. What does Groves have to gain from this? and
b.) there are other guys who've worked their bollocks off in their careers at SMW that aren't getting these fights. A decent example of this is his stable mate Rocky Fielding. Now, you could say "he got ironed out early last time out!" Well tbh if Murray fought Callum Smith, who's to say the same wouldn't happen?
Like I said, there are decent fights out there for him that I mentioned before that would earn him decent money AND make him more credible in the division.
Like I said, at SMW , he has beaten nobody in the top 100! And I could easily be as dismissive of his sob story achievements as you were of Groves's.

[Fenster]

I don't get your point that... He's not on Groves level at supermiddle?

Abraham is one of the top supermiddles in the world. The Ring have him ranked no.1 (personally I think DeGale is no.1 but I understand the ranking). In Murray's last fight he lost a close decision against him.

Groves was sparked by Froch and lost a close decision against Jack. I don't see the superior level Groves has fought at that makes Murray not worthy to share a ring with him, and if I bring the middleweights in, then Murray has fought better opposition than Groves.

I don't care about what money they would earn, or what they gain from it, i'm just interested in good matchups. I think it's a good fight.