Floyd claims that if it were not for the weight difference GGG would be "easy work"

[g3org3]

Remove the bums and tomato cans and Armstrong really won 16 in a row by KO.

Floyd has never been able to do even that.

Lol master you go over the top with your hate for Floyd. Just face it he's the TBE

That is just it! Floyd is far from being TBE boxer.

Your being a bit harsh master at the very least he's belongs in the conversation of who's the TBE.

[mikeeod]

Remove the bums and tomato cans and Armstrong really won 16 in a row by KO.

Floyd has never been able to do even that.

Lol master you go over the top with your hate for Floyd. Just face it he's the TBE

That is just it! Floyd is far from being TBE boxer.

Your being a bit harsh master at the very least he's belongs in the conversation of who's the TBE.

I don't see a logical, unbiased case for Floyd as TBE at this point in time. If Floyd came back and beat GGG, I would say he moves into the discussion. Right now Floyd is in the top 10-15, which is still pretty damn special.

[J_Undisputed]

Remove the bums and tomato cans and Armstrong really won 16 in a row by KO.

Floyd has never been able to do even that.

Lol master you go over the top with your hate for Floyd. Just face it he's the TBE

That is just it! Floyd is far from being TBE boxer.

Your being a bit harsh master at the very least he's belongs in the conversation of who's the TBE.

I don't see a logical, unbiased case for Floyd as TBE at this point in time. If Floyd came back and beat GGG, I would say he moves into the discussion. Right now Floyd is in the top 10-15, which is still pretty damn special.

I have to agree. There's no disputing his abilities and talents. At the same time, that title was self proclaimed. Its not like he was nominated by another fighter who's opinion carries any weight. The fact that he was a pretentious, self indulgent primadonna kind just makes its own counter argument to his claim. If we're inviting hypotheticals into the conversation consistently across the board, then it should be "He was the best ever as long as his opponents conceded to wearing the gloves he preferred, taking the drug tests he wanted, fought when he wanted to (day/ year) the location he wanted, for the money he wanted to give them, weighing what he wanted them to weigh, don't mind losing by sucker punch, don't retaliate (bite) when he tries to suffocate you in a clinch by putting his glove over your mouth and nose, don't mind getting hit by forearms, let him announce the fights, endure racist rants, don't mind him getting administered IV's to rehydrate, etc. etc.)

The best ever... at gaining an advantage, or leveraging a check against an opponent, self promoting--i'll agree with. If he didn't have the skills to win without all that, we wouldn't even be having these discussions. People would write him off as a haye/stevenson type who's body cant keep up with the checks his mouth keeps writing. But everyone knows he has/had an amazing skillset and ring IQ. So all the nickel and dime-ing just makes it seem like he's a spoiled brat who was running scared and doing anything he could to protect his zero. Everyone wants to see a guy like that tested. Not see him go through with a fight he orchestrates from start to finish and then fall down on his knees and start crying like a little girl afterwards to convince those watching, that they witnessed an incredible feat.

I was a fan of his when he was beating people without the BS and looked like he was dominating and not just trying to survive. I can't remember the last pure statement the guy made in the ring with no stips, against a good fighter in their prime, using his full arsenal (slipping, moving, punching with bad intentions, putting fast accurate combinations together) with no controversy after. Once boxing became "a business" to him, he lost his heart and spent more time trying to cripple his opponents pref-fight and worrying about what he was going to wear and what he was going to eat, than he did actually fighting.