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    Default Re: No stopping Trump (will be a NY/NJ ticket)

    Not my words------taken from Adams and Washington.

    FACT: the Founding Fathers warned us about the threat from a two party system.

    John Adams said:

    There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.
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    Default Re: No stopping Trump (will be a NY/NJ ticket)

    George Washington agreed, saying in his farewell presidential speech:

    ....(Very long, so I edited parts that really struck me)


    The common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.

    It serves always to distract the Public Councils, and enfeeble the Public Administration. It agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one part against another,

    It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which find a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions.

    Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.

    There is an opinion, that parties in free countries are useful checks upon the administration of the Government, and serve to keep alive the spirit of Liberty. This within certain limits is probably true;


    Patriotism may look with indulgence, if not with favor, upon the spirit of party.

    But in those of the popular character, in Governments purely elective, it is a spirit not to be encouraged.
    -George Washington
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    Clinton can't unite with Republicans speaking as a Democrat that imposes change to the elite, the business owner exclusively--- while relieving the poor, to the minority of personal responsibility and self correction.

    Trump won't unite conservatives with Democrats they deem as liberal, thus, immoral, without values, anti-christ and supposedly unconstitutional in mind, unpatriotic at heart.

    Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump represent the limitless pit we've bottomed to.
    Just when you thought America could stoop no lower.............

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    Default Re: No stopping Trump (will be a NY/NJ ticket)

    Quote Originally Posted by SlimTrae View Post
    Not my words------taken from Adams and Washington.

    FACT: the Founding Fathers warned us about the threat from a two party system.

    John Adams said:

    There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.
    Or perhaps slavery was a bigger evil

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SlimTrae View Post
    Not my words------taken from Adams and Washington.

    FACT: the Founding Fathers warned us about the threat from a two party system.

    John Adams said:

    There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.
    Or perhaps slavery was a bigger evil
    I think we can agree that no one people is clean or innocent.


    Me think Adams saw a greater evil in partisanship, because it had a history that showed nations demise as a result, whereas slavery was beneficial to a nation's economy.
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    But to end it on the parties.

    Clinton.

    The money that funded Obama and now Hillary is IMO as evil of a group imaginable. Democrats have made gutter choices for POTUS continuously.
    Reason: DNC is not under the will of the people. It is it's own creature to which the voters don't choose DNC leaders nor determine their agenda. Rather the Democratic voters are subservient.

    And on the other side....
    Trump claims he can't be bought, IMO that is a smokescreen.

    The industries that send their lobbyists to Washington have worth that dwarfs Trump's--some say he is worth what .2-4 billion? Pssst! yeah right.

    Koch Industries yearly net averages 30-40 billion. IMO they're already knee deep in the government thru senators & congressmen hollering (Deregulation! Let the markets work it out)..

    Pharmaceutical industry: 300-400 billion, what? Annually?
    Agencies that work for industries...in the name of the people aka Food and drug administration....both DNC & RNC per Senate to Congress work for the lobbyists of these mega corporations more so than the people.

    FDA--Trump is gonna clean that house out? The bloated agency that approves of drugs...that produces lawsuits a few years after pills of death get approved?
    Aproved of chemical induced food, cloned fucking meat? Genetically modified food is what sickens us into a need for a healthcare system we can't afford.

    Energy sector, to corporations that make carnal weapons...they can't survive in peace time. 600 military bases over 60 nations..Ron Paul claims 800 spread over 130 nations.
    Trump gonna keep all of them and deal with the consequences of placing our soldiers, embassy personnel on foreign soil?

    This dude has played to the angst, fears and emotions so well....that he has campaigned on virtually no policies.
    In Ohio Trump leads the Ohioan's Governor with this caveat: Kasich may be the grown-up in the room... but the people are choosing Trump.

    They don't want the tea partiers they elected.
    They don't want the grown-up in the room.......
    All's lost! Everything's going to shit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimTrae View Post
    But to end it on the parties.

    Clinton.

    The money that funded Obama and now Hillary is IMO as evil of a group imaginable. Democrats have made gutter choices for POTUS continuously.
    Reason: DNC is not under the will of the people. It is it's own creature to which the voters don't choose DNC leaders nor determine their agenda. Rather the Democratic voters are subservient.

    And on the other side....
    Trump claims he can't be bought, IMO that is a smokescreen.

    The industries that send their lobbyists to Washington have worth that dwarfs Trump's--some say he is worth what .2-4 billion? Pssst! yeah right.

    Koch Industries yearly net averages 30-40 billion. IMO they're already knee deep in the government thru senators & congressmen hollering (Deregulation! Let the markets work it out)..

    Pharmaceutical industry: 300-400 billion, what? Annually?
    Agencies that work for industries...in the name of the people aka Food and drug administration....both DNC & RNC per Senate to Congress work for the lobbyists of these mega corporations more so than the people.

    FDA--Trump is gonna clean that house out? The bloated agency that approves of drugs...that produces lawsuits a few years after pills of death get approved?
    Aproved of chemical induced food, cloned fucking meat? Genetically modified food is what sickens us into a need for a healthcare system we can't afford.

    Energy sector, to corporations that make carnal weapons...they can't survive in peace time. 600 military bases over 60 nations..Ron Paul claims 800 spread over 130 nations.
    Trump gonna keep all of them and deal with the consequences of placing our soldiers, embassy personnel on foreign soil?

    This dude has played to the angst, fears and emotions so well....that he has campaigned on virtually no policies.
    In Ohio Trump leads the Ohioan's Governor with this caveat: Kasich may be the grown-up in the room... but the people are choosing Trump.

    They don't want the tea partiers they elected.
    They don't want the grown-up in the room.......
    Excellent points

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    Excellently pointing out our doom?! Don't make this grown mofo cry!!!

    I'd like to believe Trump wants to buttfuck both parties. He's stated they are both screwed. I agree. I admit I'm a bit of a player hater here...I wish it were Ron Paul that has voters fired up like Trump has.

    My last comment on Trump. I can't predict what kind of leader he would be
    But I can predict Hillary, Rubio, Sanders, Cruz, Omalley...


    S.O.S.



    Same old shit.
    All's lost! Everything's going to shit!

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