It's a generational thing. Old school fans just have to accept it.
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It's a generational thing. Old school fans just have to accept it.
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It is a new fan thing, old school fans do not care. Boxing is littered with excellent catchweight matches, matches where one fighter comes in 'under weight' and 'contracted weight' fights.Originally Posted by SlimTrae
It should also be noted Middleweight has not always had a 160lbs limit, much like today, the match limit was dictated by the champ...
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The worst catchweight I can think of was Laila Ali @162lbs against A natural 138lb Christie Martin allowed to weigh in with fatigues and combat boots.It is a new fan thing, old school fans do not care. Boxing is littered with excellent catchweight matches, matches where one fighter comes in 'under weight' and 'contracted weight' fights.
It should also be noted Middleweight has not always had a 160lbs limit, much like today, the match limit was dictated by the champ...
Claiming she was 159lbs. Most claim 145lbs @ best. Christie Martin showed more balls than these guys claiming to be warriors. Floyd said GGG is too big, yet The coal miners daughter fought someone who came in as heavy as 168lbs.
Oh, she lost, but what a trooper to even dare to be great.
Got one more rant. Pacquiao fighting for 154 title with a catchweight... not worthy of being written in as an 8 division champ.
Catchweight champ, sure.....
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The fight was for a title, it was not catchweight, Margarito agreed to come in at 150.
Catchweight fights have to by definition be non title, as the two fighters can weigh what they wish, under the Heavyweight limit (200lbs today).
As for eight division champ; it seems every half decent fighter gets some world title to claim, so to stand out the excellent fighters need lots. I do not think in itself it is much more than padding an already excellent resume.
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If you want to see weight class issues watch some unlicensed boxing, I went a few weeks back one fighter was 12 stone his opponent was about 10 stone, the little guy got poleaxed a miss match I went as a friend
of my son's was fighting, to be honest the standard was crap I shall not bother again.
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If a smaller fighter wants to chance his arm against a bigger fighter so be it. When a fighter gets dragged down below their regular weight class that to me is completely irresponsible on the part of all concerned.
The fact that governing bodies, promoters, athletic commissions and fighters alike will overlook fighter safety in the name of a buck and a paper title says it all.
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A resume that showed Pac somehow managed to win Superfeather to Super Welter by coming in on fight night around 138-144 dating back to Morales.The fight was for a title
.Two guys fighting for a title with a combined record of zero wins at that weight.
, it was not catchweight, Margarito agreed to come in at 150.
That's definition enough for me. In order to a agree someone had to request it. Was it the sanctioning body or Pac and his team?
Catchweight fights have to by definition be non title, as the two fighters can weigh what they wish, under the Heavyweight limit (200lbs today).
Technically speaking doesn't discount the fact that Pac couldn't allow a 154lb title be fought and or weighed based on the division:154-159. Title or no title it wasn't contested based on the weight class.
As for eight division champ; it seems every half decent fighter gets some world title to claim, so to stand out the excellent fighters need lots. I do not think in itself it is much more than padding an already excellent resume.
Last I checked there is only two weight classes from 138-145.
Not talking about what he weighed the day before.
Rather... Fight night Pac has weighed the above since 2003 or so....that to me is a catchweight king.
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