Nick Blackwell vs Chris Eubank Jnr

[Batman]

Standing eight-count

A standing eight-count, also known as a*protection count, occurs when the referee stops the action and gives an eight-count to a boxer who has not been knocked down but appears hurt. During this time, the referee will determine if the boxer is fit to continue.

When scoring a fight, a standing eight-count is considered the same as a knockdown.

Standing eight-counts are standard procedure in all amateur bouts.

The*Association of Boxing Commissions*unified rules*state: "There is NO Standing ( Count."

IBF,*WBA,*WBC*and*WBO*title fights do not allow the standing eight-count.

The following states have the standing eight-count in effect: Connecticut, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, New York, Pennsylvania and Tennessee,

Compare:*mandatory eight-coun

[ross]

Well you better tell that to the BBBOC they have a misprint in their rules!

You do realise British fights are officiated differently to world organistion fights? Its on,y been recently that British fights werent decided by the ref!

[Batman]

when a Boxer is supported on the ropes of the boxing ring and, in the opinion of the Referee, is unable to defend himself

I take that to mean that he is supported on the ropes therefore remove the ropes and the boxer will go down as there is nothing supporting him

occurs when the referee stops the action and gives an eight-count to a boxer who has not been knocked down but appears hurt.

I take that to mean that he has not gone down he is still standing unsupported but he is trouble

[ross]

What are you arguing over? Its there in black and white!

In fact ill cut out everything other that what shows you that 8 counts still exist.

In this Regulation 3.32, “down” shall mean one or more of the following:-
when a Boxer is supported on the ropes of the boxing ring and, in the opinion of the Referee, is unable to defend himself;
The Referee shall not permit a Boxer to continue boxing, if in his opinion he is able to do so, until the expiration of 8 seconds following the knock down.

So if a ref can stop a boxer and not permit him to box for 8 seconds while the boxer is on his feet what do you think that is?

A tea break?

[Batman]

What are you arguing over? Its there in black and white!

In fact ill cut out everything other that what shows you that 8 counts still exist.

In this Regulation 3.32, “down” shall mean one or more of the following:-
The Referee shall not permit a Boxer to continue boxing, if in his opinion he is able to do so, until the expiration of 8 seconds following the knock down.

Wipe those tears Ross I'm not arguing, merely pointing out the difference between the rule

The Referee shall not permit a Boxer to continue boxing, if in his opinion he is able to do so, until the expiration of 8 seconds following the knock down.

A standing 8 count is given if the boxer does not get knocked down, at no point does anything other than his feet touch the canvas

it may seem like nit picking but they are 2 different rules in my opinion, just spotted that you said 'what shows you that 8 counts still exist' we are talking about the standing 8 count, not the 8 count following a knock down

[ross]

Its like educating pork.

The "8 count following a knockdown" as you say has always been in place. The description of when a fighter is down is very ambiguous and for the ref to inteperet. The 8 count is clearly there though and while standing so that means I win!

[Batman]

I don't see what is all that ambiguous about the rules that you were strictly quoting just a few posts ago, in fact I would say that the description of when a fighter is down is pretty clear cut

3.32.1 In this Regulation 3.32, “down” shall mean one or more of the following:-
(a) when a Boxer falls from the boxing ring beyond the ring apron as a result of a legitimate blow; or
(b) when a Boxer is on one foot or both feet and at the same time any other part of his body is touching the floor of the boxing ring; or
(c) when a Boxer is supported on the ropes of the boxing ring and, in the opinion of the Referee, is unable to defend himself; or
(d) when a Boxer is in the act of rising

I would say that is when a fighter is down.
End of the day it appears that you were arguing about a completely different rule to what Fenster mentioned in the first place.

But then what do I know I just watch fights at home and have never taken a punch after all

[Dia bando]

Lads lets stop arguing of course this brings up some strong feelings on this fight, we can not change
the fact Nick Blackwell got injured, we could blame ref corner men doctors etc a boxing match is
fight between two adults that are at peak fitness and in controlled environment(RING) with a referee
and Doctors and other medical experts at ringside.
I don't believe anybody is thick with there opinions, you say it as you see it and there are disagreements
remember lads who needs our prays and good wishes is Nick Blackwell and family and spare a thought for
Eubank Jr how he is feeling not to good lads.

[Memphis]

Ross you do understand that you are providing an 'answer' to a question that hasn't been asked right?

Only just watched the fight. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and given what happened of course I understand that people would have liked to see the fight stopped earlier, for me though, the fight ran it's natural course. Blackwell was a league below Eubank and it showed throughout but he was as hard as nails and always game, he always gave the referee justification for letting him go on. The amount of claret on show made it look a far more brutal affair.

Jnr looked good, strong, bags of energy, good variety. I've never thought he wouldn't beat BJS in a rematch so no change there. Golovkin? Different gravy.