Saul Alvarez vs John Mugabi

**Primo Carnera** · 03-31-2016 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by greynotsoold

Mugabi fights him at 55 and knocks him out. He beat a lot of good fighters at 54 and was on the rise. He fought his heart out against Hagler; that Mugabi beats Canelo in 4-5.
Make it Iinteresting. Make Canelo hit 155 that day.

Great point about same day weigh-ins. We should consider that more when comparing guys in different eras. Canelo would be a LHW Back then!

**Fenster** · 03-31-2016 10:26 PM

Canelo looks naturally bigger than Mugabi to me, I'd strongly back him under the weigh-in rules today, he looks the better boxer as well as being more solid.

**IamInuit** · 03-31-2016 11:56 PM

In quoting the Irish Descendants, ''he's got an arm like a leg and a punch that could sink a battleship"

But that’s all he had. In hindsight, he never even had the chin to compete at the highest level and as we all know, you can only get so far with a punch. Sure he did well against Hagler but that had more to do with Hagler. The guy took 4 years off after Hagler/Thomas to gain his confidence back as false as it was and got blasted out by both Norris and dog torturer in less than 6 minutes. He stood straight up, went straight back and fought much of the time like he had one foot nailed to the floor.

I don’t like how Alvarez is being handled but the kid is good and he's got a solid chin to boot. I'm not challenging Mugabi's fighting heart or him as a person but I just like Alvarez beats the snot out of him.

**Master** · 04-01-2016 01:24 AM

Losing to Hagler, Norris and G Man is not a bad thing but Duane Thomas was a bad one.

**Spicoli** · 04-01-2016 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by Master

Losing to Hagler, Norris and G Man is not a bad thing but Duane Thomas was a bad one.

Sometimes you learn the real deal after a defeat. Mugabi ballooned to near 200lbs post Hagler and was really never the same. He rolled over some gritty second tier types getting to Hagler but when your biggest claim to fame is based on a loss, I mean come on. Tough dude but Canelo would be like size, better composed and his boxing would see him do well me thinks. If Duane Thomas shatters you orbital bone with a left hook and makes you turn your back..Alvaraz could get to him too.

**mikeeod** · 04-01-2016 08:03 PM

Canelo is my poster boy for how far the sport has fallen since it's hey day. He's a good kid who made a name for himself by beating noticeably smaller fighters, many of whom were past their prime. I see guys like Oba Carr, Fernando Vargas, and Mugabi being too much for Canelo. I say Mugabi in 8.