come to think of it, I think england might be like germany of 2002, back then the germans were coming off a bad tournament 2 years earlier when they left in the group stages, they replaced a few of the older guys, matthaus, hassler, babbel and so on, whether through retirement or just no longer having it, frings, ballack and klose got their chances and became very good players... In 2002 germany had leverkusen coming up as a surprise team with a couple of the germans 2002 world cup team coming from them(ballack who scored 3, neuville scored the winner against paraguay and ramelow in defence), england have leiceister leading the league as a big surprise and a few of their players seem to be making an impact internationally...... I think england are going to the final :S
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