Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
All i know is that Froch can beat guys that are on a high level you do not have wins over Kessler,Taylor,AA,Johnson and Pascal with out being able to take it to another level. GGG is a good can crusher who has not even sniffed anyone near that level his talent is untested.
I understand where you are coming from but you have taken things out of bounds a bit or rather have left significant factors out. One thing is that the middleweight division has always been notoriously less than ideal as far as the best verses the rest. Many of the great middles of past eras dominated the same type of division and it was only when they beat famous welters that they reached notoriety and sat atop atg lists. Golovkin can’t get there. He can’t get there because no welter would dare. Hell, the middleweights fighting at 154 wont dare either.

Every time this topic comes up many put up the same discredit but the facts matter. Hagler’s lodgepole along with Hopkins and Monzon's is no better Real Middleweight wise then Golovkins. As a matter of fact he has decimated the same kind of mid division they operated in only much sooner and could easily surpass Bernards 20 defense record much quicker. And it’s lucky for Hopkins I suppose that Don King owned every player in the middleweight tourney. Had it been the same today, Golovkin would have been undisputed middleweight champion a long time ago. The system we find ourselves in enables the plastic to roll on.