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All i know is that Froch can beat guys that are on a high level you do not have wins over Kessler,Taylor,AA,Johnson and Pascal with out being able to take it to another level. GGG is a good can crusher who has not even sniffed anyone near that level his talent is untested.
I understand where you are coming from but you have taken things out of bounds a bit or rather have left significant factors out. One thing is that the middleweight division has always been notoriously less than ideal as far as the best verses the rest. Many of the great middles of past eras dominated the same type of division and it was only when they beat famous welters that they reached notoriety and sat atop atg lists. Golovkin can’t get there. He can’t get there because no welter would dare. Hell, the middleweights fighting at 154 wont dare either.


Every time this topic comes up many put up the same discredit but the facts matter. Hagler’s lodgepole along with Hopkins and Monzon's is no better Real Middleweight wise then Golovkins. As a matter of fact he has decimated the same kind of mid division they operated in only much sooner and could easily surpass Bernards 20 defense record much quicker. And it’s lucky for Hopkins I suppose that Don King owned every player in the middleweight tourney. Had it been the same today, Golovkin would have been undisputed middleweight champion a long time ago. The system we find ourselves in enables the plastic to roll on.
I have always said that Hagler and Monzons were weak divisions Hopkins moved up so i really cant say much about him he made the jump. I am just saying its kinda who knows with GGG to be compared to man who has fought high level comp and the division GGG in has to be one of the worst i have seen since i been watching boxing. Pretty much ever guy he has fought is a can or journey man who never beat anybody worth a shit. I mean people talk about lower weight guys not fighting him is not different then him not jumping up his division is cleaned and after Canelo it still be a shit division. It does not really matters if he wants to stay and clean house and records at division. I do not hate GGG but the fact is he simple has not beaten a high level fighter yet let alone a hof i am sure he will soon.