Chisora & Whyte

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Chisora clearly beat Helenius, who certainly did have a pulse, also gave Vitali a tough fight which was no easy feat. Today though? I think he's slipped enough to make the way he fights simply ineffective, although to be honest it would still be a good test/benchmark of how good Whyte is.

I hear what you're saying, but on his record, it's a loss whether we like it or not. I had Groves beating Froch in the 1st fight, but it makes no difference. Besides all that , Helenius hasn't done much since to show that he is anything special anyway. Maybe he was overrated as well.
As for Vitali, he was well beat. He put up a good effort to be fair to him, but that is based on the fact that at the time most people felt he shouldn't be in the same ring as Vitali .
I genuinely believe and some may think I'm crazy, that today, right now, David Price beats Chisora fairly hansomely.
I'm not saying Price would do anything against or even deserves to fight AJ, but that's where i think Chisora is , About 7th or 8th best in Britain!!

I've never really gotten that about boxing fans. Everyone knows the judges are often useless or flat out corrupt, yet bad decisions are supposed to stick to the point where they are used to discredit the guy who got robbed. How can you have it both way? OK it's a loss on his record, but anyone who would actually bring up CHisora losing to Helenius as a point in any debate is being stupid imo. Froch-Groves is totally different because it was a stoppage, albeit an iffy one.If Groves had recovered and taken the next couple of rounds then lost on points, would you really say "well he lost to Froch, it's on his record, so he couldn't have possibly beaten so and so"?