Must watch presentation on BREXIT. FACTS aplenTY!

[El Kabong]

This is exceptionally accurate. Fantastic post.

I was beginning to wonder which side you would be on as I had quite looked forward to reading your take on it.

[El Kabong]

[Kirkland Laing]

This is exceptionally accurate. Fantastic post.

I was beginning to wonder which side you would be on as I had quite looked forward to reading your take on it.

I agree with all of it. It saved me the bother of writing anything. 30% of people according to polls are going to make their mind up at the last minute and most of them will be scared into voting for the status quo. There'll be an avalanche of scare stories in the last week to scare them into voting to stay in unfortunately.

The people who want to leave will lose the battle but win the war -- the EU and the eurozone are falling apart anyway. Something will eventually go bang so badly that it'll bring the whole edifice down, probably the Italian economy.


Having said that I'm quietly hoping that we'll keep a stiff upper lip and vote to fuck off. Stuff like this gives me hope:

The Labour supporters backing Brexit in Stoke-on-Trent heartland – video | Opinion | The Guardian


and

Inside Labour’s London HQ, I joined young volunteers manning the “Labour In” phones with every fact at the ready. We had sheets of Labour-supporting names to call in Nottinghamshire – and the results were grim. “Out”, “Out” and “Out” in call after call, only a couple for remain. “I’ve been Labour all my life, but I’m for leave,” they said. Why? Always the same – immigrants first; that mythical £350m saving on money sent to Brussels second; “I want my country back” third. And then there is, “I don’t know ANYONE voting in.”

Try arguing with facts and you get nowhere. Warn these Labour people what a Johnson/Gove government would do and they don’t care. Warn about the loss of workers’ rights and they don’t listen – maybe that’s already irrelevant to millions in crap jobs such as at Uber or Sports Direct. “We’re full up. Sorry, there’s no room for more. Can’t get GP appointments, can’t get into our schools, no housing.” If you tell these Labour voters that’s because of Tory austerity cuts, still they blame “immigrants getting everything first”. Warn about a Brexit recession leading to far worse cuts and they just say, “Stop them coming, make room for our own first.”

Brexit supporters have unleashed furies even they can’t control | Polly Toynbee | Opinion | The Guardian



So I'm going to have some good bubbly on ice just in case.

[Kirkland Laing]

Oooooh and I just bumped into this!

Within the Labour party, the mood is bleak. “We are sleepwalking to losing the damn thing,” lamented one senior source. One frontbencher returned from canvassing and announced to his office: “It’s just like the general election. The polls say it’ll be fine but every doorstep someone tells you to f*** off.”

The Remain campaign have only thin gruel to keep Britain in the European Union

[El Kabong]

Good, thank you for that added response. I wasn't expecting that much after the "It saved me the bother of writing anything." but you delivered.


Well it seems that this is yet another sign of the apocalypse as we are in agreement on this issue...though the very thought of that may get you to change your stance haha.