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    Does Liam Smith not blow up above 154 on fight nights? He doesn't look smaller than Canelo. It's not unfair if a fighter makes weight the same way everyone else does, whatever you think of Canelo he's not the only guy who can move weight easily. Of course the catch weights were a different thing, and I'm not defending this fight or anything, but Canelo isn't any bigger than the Charlo brothers or Andrade.

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    Well if true i think he should just drop the belt at 160 and fight at 154 which is fine with me if thats the weight class he chooses to fight at but he needs to make up his mind. I still do not get how he gains so much weight i have seen him in person he is not a very big dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Well if true i think he should just drop the belt at 160 and fight at 154 which is fine with me if thats the weight class he chooses to fight at but he needs to make up his mind. I still do not get how he gains so much weight i have seen him in person he is not a very big dude.
    he already has given up the wbc belt, shame the fight with golovkin didnt happen but I think fighting cotto and khan as his two "middleweight" title fights is not proper preparation to take on golovkin. If golovkin is taking on eubank jr next and canelo v smith, then maybe they are trying to build up a uk fanbase for a potential golovkin v canelo fight.. Canelo certainly needs some fights v real middleweights before he takes on golovkin though in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Well if true i think he should just drop the belt at 160 and fight at 154 which is fine with me if thats the weight class he chooses to fight at but he needs to make up his mind. I still do not get how he gains so much weight i have seen him in person he is not a very big dude.
    he already has given up the wbc belt, shame the fight with golovkin didnt happen but I think fighting cotto and khan as his two "middleweight" title fights is not proper preparation to take on golovkin. If golovkin is taking on eubank jr next and canelo v smith, then maybe they are trying to build up a uk fanbase for a potential golovkin v canelo fight.. Canelo certainly needs some fights v real middleweights before he takes on golovkin though in my opinion.
    I think that is wishful thinking, Eubank Jr yeah maybe, Smith on the otherhand is not known outside of boxing fans, Callum is probably a bigger name and its Liam that has the world title, if anything a Canelo v Smith fight will raise Smith's profile in England and not old ginger flaps

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    Understand why everyone thinks this is shit because Smith is unknown in the UK let alone the US. And Canelo has blatantly swerved Golovkin. However, I think it's a decent fight. Smith is a bit of a lump at 154 too, and a solid box/puncher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Understand why everyone thinks this is shit because Smith is unknown in the UK let alone the US. And Canelo has blatantly swerved Golovkin. However, I think it's a decent fight. Smith is a bit of a lump at 154 too, and a solid box/puncher.
    I think its an ok fight too, although Smiths only chance is a KO. He throws a lovely left to the body and if Canelo is weight drained that could be the shot that wins it for him. Smith could score a knock down in every round and still lose a decision though

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    It is a decent fight. If it were a BAD main event or an undercard for a PPV I wouldn't mind it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Well if true i think he should just drop the belt at 160 and fight at 154 which is fine with me if thats the weight class he chooses to fight at but he needs to make up his mind. I still do not get how he gains so much weight i have seen him in person he is not a very big dude.
    he already has given up the wbc belt, shame the fight with golovkin didnt happen but I think fighting cotto and khan as his two "middleweight" title fights is not proper preparation to take on golovkin. If golovkin is taking on eubank jr next and canelo v smith, then maybe they are trying to build up a uk fanbase for a potential golovkin v canelo fight.. Canelo certainly needs some fights v real middleweights before he takes on golovkin though in my opinion.
    I think that is wishful thinking, Eubank Jr yeah maybe, Smith on the otherhand is not known outside of boxing fans, Callum is probably a bigger name and its Liam that has the world title, if anything a Canelo v Smith fight will raise Smith's profile in England and not old ginger flaps
    that's true but it also doesn't take much for british fans to get behind a fighter from blighty, maybe it won't raise alvarezs profile that much but it'll do something for him..

    Canelo Alvarez could fight Billy Joe Saunders after Liam Smith - Boxing News

    Bill joe saunders for alvarez if he beats smith..

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    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Well if true i think he should just drop the belt at 160 and fight at 154 which is fine with me if thats the weight class he chooses to fight at but he needs to make up his mind. I still do not get how he gains so much weight i have seen him in person he is not a very big dude.
    he already has given up the wbc belt, shame the fight with golovkin didnt happen but I think fighting cotto and khan as his two "middleweight" title fights is not proper preparation to take on golovkin. If golovkin is taking on eubank jr next and canelo v smith, then maybe they are trying to build up a uk fanbase for a potential golovkin v canelo fight.. Canelo certainly needs some fights v real middleweights before he takes on golovkin though in my opinion.
    I think that is wishful thinking, Eubank Jr yeah maybe, Smith on the otherhand is not known outside of boxing fans, Callum is probably a bigger name and its Liam that has the world title, if anything a Canelo v Smith fight will raise Smith's profile in England and not old ginger flaps
    that's true but it also doesn't take much for british fans to get behind a fighter from blighty, maybe it won't raise alvarezs profile that much but it'll do something for him..

    Canelo Alvarez could fight Billy Joe Saunders after Liam Smith - Boxing News

    Bill joe saunders for alvarez if he beats smith..
    Canelo is fighting a lot of Brits, are we cheap or just unknown that Saul can sell it to the public?
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    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Well if true i think he should just drop the belt at 160 and fight at 154 which is fine with me if thats the weight class he chooses to fight at but he needs to make up his mind. I still do not get how he gains so much weight i have seen him in person he is not a very big dude.
    he already has given up the wbc belt, shame the fight with golovkin didnt happen but I think fighting cotto and khan as his two "middleweight" title fights is not proper preparation to take on golovkin. If golovkin is taking on eubank jr next and canelo v smith, then maybe they are trying to build up a uk fanbase for a potential golovkin v canelo fight.. Canelo certainly needs some fights v real middleweights before he takes on golovkin though in my opinion.
    I think that is wishful thinking, Eubank Jr yeah maybe, Smith on the otherhand is not known outside of boxing fans, Callum is probably a bigger name and its Liam that has the world title, if anything a Canelo v Smith fight will raise Smith's profile in England and not old ginger flaps
    that's true but it also doesn't take much for british fans to get behind a fighter from blighty, maybe it won't raise alvarezs profile that much but it'll do something for him..

    Canelo Alvarez could fight Billy Joe Saunders after Liam Smith - Boxing News

    Bill joe saunders for alvarez if he beats smith..
    HHmmmmmmmm I'm not too sure about that, the Brits have a habit of backing against their own, Khan started off as a hype job and people soon turned against him, Hatton was the people hero up until the end, AJ is the current flavour of the month (if he takes a shot on the jaw and goes down people will soon lose interest in him)

    unless you are a superstar the brits pretty much ignore boxers in my opinion, added to that it is on boxnation so it won't have the massive promotion that sky normally put up.

    as I say I think that Smith will benefit from the fight (publicitywise) in the UK more than Ginger flaps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    as I say I think that Smith will benefit from the fight (publicitywise) in the UK more than Ginger flaps
    I agree with that but I think it will benefit canelo too, not huge amount but they seem to be planning for the golovkin fight a year from now so one step at a time, take on this smith fellow then bjs, I think those two fights will certainly raise his profile in blighty if he performs well. Golovkin taking on eubank too, in my opinion this is a bit much to be a coincidence, britain is a pretty large market and has a lot of money, ggg and canelo seem to already have the north american market tied up, so I think this is what they are doing here, maybe they are maybe I'm wrong, whatever, if these fights happen I would like to see them all. GGG v eubank jr will be interesting and if canelo can beat another champion and then go and fight bjs that would make for good fights too... Obviously it would have been far better if golovkin and canelo were up next but unfortunatley it just isnt happening :S

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Does Liam Smith not blow up above 154 on fight nights? He doesn't look smaller than Canelo. It's not unfair if a fighter makes weight the same way everyone else does, whatever you think of Canelo he's not the only guy who can move weight easily. Of course the catch weights were a different thing, and I'm not defending this fight or anything, but Canelo isn't any bigger than the Charlo brothers or Andrade.
    According to his boxnation bio he sits around the house and walks around at 163. But according to him....

    I’m a big 154. A lot is made of Canelo coming in the ring at 180."

    "I’ve said to people, if I wanted, I could get in the ring at 180. But I choose not to. On the night, there would not be a big difference between us size wise. It’s a fight I’d love. I was too big for Amir when I sparred with him for that fight. I kind of knew it was going to happen. It was always a case of could Amir go to points?"

    “If Amir could get to points, he might do well. But he didn’t make it because he was too small. Amir is a 147 fighter. You’d have to chop my leg off to make me a 147 fighter.”

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    I didn't realise that he sparred with Khan, that would have been an interesting watch

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