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    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
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    There was something dodgy about Buck.


    Most journeymen will fight under different aliases.
    I don't have the quality eyesight to count them but he must have fought Verdell Smith and Bleakley 10 times each. Its like scrolling a record from early century ffs...at one point 4 fights in one week? Not even sure that's legal . I remember seeing him lose to Chavez and it looked like a definite 'flop'.
    He was fighting on the mid-America club circuit, like the Jakubowski brothers. There are guys out there now, fighting out of Oklahoma, that have 60-70 fights, all 4,6 rounds, all in Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri. There is one guy, from Indiana, that I came across last year and he was 14-0 in four months as a pro. Fighting weekly from Indiana to Arizona.
    Was this Buck Smith a good fighter and contender level?

    Surely, he must have been at one point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    There was something dodgy about Buck.


    Most journeymen will fight under different aliases.
    I don't have the quality eyesight to count them but he must have fought Verdell Smith and Bleakley 10 times each. Its like scrolling a record from early century ffs...at one point 4 fights in one week? Not even sure that's legal . I remember seeing him lose to Chavez and it looked like a definite 'flop'.
    He was fighting on the mid-America club circuit, like the Jakubowski brothers. There are guys out there now, fighting out of Oklahoma, that have 60-70 fights, all 4,6 rounds, all in Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri. There is one guy, from Indiana, that I came across last year and he was 14-0 in four months as a pro. Fighting weekly from Indiana to Arizona.
    Was this Buck Smith a good fighter and contender level?

    Surely, he must have been at one point.
    I believe he broke the top ten after he stopped Robert Wangila. That was a big upset at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
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    There was something dodgy about Buck.


    Most journeymen will fight under different aliases.
    I don't have the quality eyesight to count them but he must have fought Verdell Smith and Bleakley 10 times each. Its like scrolling a record from early century ffs...at one point 4 fights in one week? Not even sure that's legal . I remember seeing him lose to Chavez and it looked like a definite 'flop'.
    He was fighting on the mid-America club circuit, like the Jakubowski brothers. There are guys out there now, fighting out of Oklahoma, that have 60-70 fights, all 4,6 rounds, all in Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri. There is one guy, from Indiana, that I came across last year and he was 14-0 in four months as a pro. Fighting weekly from Indiana to Arizona.
    Was this Buck Smith a good fighter and contender level?

    Surely, he must have been at one point.
    I believe he broke the top ten after he stopped Robert Wangila. That was a big upset at the time.
    Hadn't even realized Wangila beat him on Hearns-Leonard II undercard. Smith dropped him but lost close. Closest I've seen him ranked was #13. It's weird really, he had offers and Arum wanting to match him but almost seemed like he didn't want it. Preferred the 'road warrior' roaming state to state? Man..he went on to fight Brazier who was top ten a couple times but all ended in NCs.
    *Smith and Brazier were the last men to fight in a non-title 15 rounder Wondering if that's accurate.

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    Buck Smith beat Kirkland Laing who beat Roberto Duran.

    Smith also lost to Buddy McGirt
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    There was something dodgy about Buck.


    Most journeymen will fight under different aliases.
    I don't have the quality eyesight to count them but he must have fought Verdell Smith and Bleakley 10 times each. Its like scrolling a record from early century ffs...at one point 4 fights in one week? Not even sure that's legal . I remember seeing him lose to Chavez and it looked like a definite 'flop'.
    He was fighting on the mid-America club circuit, like the Jakubowski brothers. There are guys out there now, fighting out of Oklahoma, that have 60-70 fights, all 4,6 rounds, all in Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri. There is one guy, from Indiana, that I came across last year and he was 14-0 in four months as a pro. Fighting weekly from Indiana to Arizona.
    Was this Buck Smith a good fighter and contender level?

    Surely, he must have been at one point.
    I believe he broke the top ten after he stopped Robert Wangila. That was a big upset at the time.
    Hadn't even realized Wangila beat him on Hearns-Leonard II undercard. Smith dropped him but lost close. Closest I've seen him ranked was #13. It's weird really, he had offers and Arum wanting to match him but almost seemed like he didn't want it. Preferred the 'road warrior' roaming state to state? Man..he went on to fight Brazier who was top ten a couple times but all ended in NCs.
    *Smith and Brazier were the last men to fight in a non-title 15 rounder Wondering if that's accurate.
    I didn't know he fought Wangila twice; 30 months and 73 fights apart. I met him last March in OKC when he was setting up chairs and tables for a fight card where I was building the ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    There was something dodgy about Buck.


    Most journeymen will fight under different aliases.
    I don't have the quality eyesight to count them but he must have fought Verdell Smith and Bleakley 10 times each. Its like scrolling a record from early century ffs...at one point 4 fights in one week? Not even sure that's legal . I remember seeing him lose to Chavez and it looked like a definite 'flop'.
    He was fighting on the mid-America club circuit, like the Jakubowski brothers. There are guys out there now, fighting out of Oklahoma, that have 60-70 fights, all 4,6 rounds, all in Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri. There is one guy, from Indiana, that I came across last year and he was 14-0 in four months as a pro. Fighting weekly from Indiana to Arizona.
    Was this Buck Smith a good fighter and contender level?

    Surely, he must have been at one point.
    I believe he broke the top ten after he stopped Robert Wangila. That was a big upset at the time.
    Hadn't even realized Wangila beat him on Hearns-Leonard II undercard. Smith dropped him but lost close. Closest I've seen him ranked was #13. It's weird really, he had offers and Arum wanting to match him but almost seemed like he didn't want it. Preferred the 'road warrior' roaming state to state? Man..he went on to fight Brazier who was top ten a couple times but all ended in NCs.
    *Smith and Brazier were the last men to fight in a non-title 15 rounder Wondering if that's accurate.
    I didn't know he fought Wangila twice; 30 months and 73 fights apart. I met him last March in OKC when he was setting up chairs and tables for a fight card where I was building the ring.
    You the man.

    Thanks for sharing.

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    Default Re: Interesting Journeymen

    Great include on Buck Smith, one of my favorite all-time fighters.

    How can any thread on journeymen not reference Bruce "The Mouse" Strauss at least once? He was actually pretty talented in the ring and his performance on Letterman was above average as well.

    One vote for Tony "KO King" Gardner from the 70's, although he did well enough with a string of 22 kos to warrant a title shot against then-dominant Elisha Obed. He was truly a road warrior and a raconteur.

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