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    They have bouncers on the door at Sunderland A and E on Friday and Saturday nights. Very few foreigners up here compared to elsewhere. We're capable of causing large quantities of homegrown domestic British trouble with no need for immigrants to come over here and do it for us.

    Corbyn is completely and utterly unelectable. Just because a bunch of lefties pay £3 to join the Labour party and vote for him doesn't mean he can get millions of people to vote for him in a general election.

    These fucking idiots made the same mistake in 1982.

    Michael Foot was the same kind of right on lefty leader and said he was amazed at the size of the crowds turning up to his meetings and rallies all over the country. He was convinced he was going to win a landslide. There was a landslide result all right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    They have bouncers on the door at Sunderland A and E on Friday and Saturday nights. Very few foreigners up here compared to elsewhere. We're capable of causing large quantities of homegrown domestic British trouble with no need for immigrants to come over here and do it for us.

    Corbyn is completely and utterly unelectable. Just because a bunch of lefties pay £3 to join the Labour party and vote for him doesn't mean he can get millions of people to vote for him in a general election.

    These fucking idiots made the same mistake in 1982.

    Michael Foot was the same kind of right on lefty leader and said he was amazed at the size of the crowds turning up to his meetings and rallies all over the country. He was convinced he was going to win a landslide. There was a landslide result all right.
    On that note, pretty gutted today that Michael Foots memorial here in his home of Plymouth was defaced by EDL and BNP idiots with Swastikas and their acronyms. The Polish shops have had stuff written over them too. I know that the vast majority of Brexit voters are not of the same ilk but the bigots among us are crawling out from under the woodwork as though they think their small minded views have some how been endorsed by the majority. The Poles including my family (Polish and German Jews on one side and Romany.Irish and English Gypsies on the other) have been in the UK a long time before the EU and we will be here for a long time after.

    I know what you are saying but I think you will be surprised by how many vote for the Loony left if a general election is called. Many people, including huge amounts of young people have had enough of the same old, same old, and will vote in protest even if their politics is more to the center. The tories have swung so far to the right that is the only way to redress some balance into public services and the society Thatcher damned by denying it. Don't get me wrong a lot of young people were apathetic and though wanting to remain in the EU did not bother to vote, and so they must accept their part in the decision going as it did. It might just be the wake up call they needed though. We will see.
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    I agree with that, but I would also argue that the young have not really experienced much of the world and have been indoctrinated for a long time. I know I was naive at that age, and I am sure a lot of youngsters are the same way. They will be more positive towards Europe, but they have less historical perspective or understanding that there were once actually jobs in manufacturing rather than in retail. Their parents will obviously see things a little differently as will kids in deprived areas of which there are many.

    I think the racism issue is being overdone, but clearly some are using it as an excuse to get physical and that isn't cool. I think the 52% are likely mostly made up of let down and frustrated people, rather than being racist. They have got twisted into being racist by politicians and media who live very easy and sheltered lives. 'Ooh look, graffiti' and then the typical Guardian nonsense about out of control societal racism. There would be no tension if immigration was controlled from the start.

    Labour started it as a vote winner and it has led to social tensions and it will only get worse and it is not because of the intrinsic racism of people it is because of the unrestrained and out of control actions of politicians. Just another example of how politicians seemingly don't care about what they are doing to people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    They have bouncers on the door at Sunderland A and E on Friday and Saturday nights. Very few foreigners up here compared to elsewhere. We're capable of causing large quantities of homegrown domestic British trouble with no need for immigrants to come over here and do it for us.

    Corbyn is completely and utterly unelectable. Just because a bunch of lefties pay £3 to join the Labour party and vote for him doesn't mean he can get millions of people to vote for him in a general election.

    These fucking idiots made the same mistake in 1982.

    Michael Foot was the same kind of right on lefty leader and said he was amazed at the size of the crowds turning up to his meetings and rallies all over the country. He was convinced he was going to win a landslide. There was a landslide result all right.
    On that note, pretty gutted today that Michael Foots memorial here in his home of Plymouth was defaced by EDL and BNP idiots with Swastikas and their acronyms. The Polish shops have had stuff written over them too. I know that the vast majority of Brexit voters are not of the same ilk but the bigots among us are crawling out from under the woodwork as though they think their small minded views have some how been endorsed by the majority. The Poles including my family (Polish and German Jews on one side and Romany.Irish and English Gypsies on the other) have been in the UK a long time before the EU and we will be here for a long time after.

    I know what you are saying but I think you will be surprised by how many vote for the Loony left if a general election is called. Many people, including huge amounts of young people have had enough of the same old, same old, and will vote in protest even if their politics is more to the center. The tories have swung so far to the right that is the only way to redress some balance into public services and the society Thatcher damned by denying it. Don't get me wrong a lot of young people were apathetic and though wanting to remain in the EU did not bother to vote, and so they must accept their part in the decision going as it did. It might just be the wake up call they needed though. We will see.
    I don't like the racism stuff either but it's inevitable if you're going to let endless people in with no control over their numbers.

    I wouldn't be surprised by how many people would vote for a Corbyn-style Labour. I already know. The Labour PLP are trying to boot him out because they've seen polling showing how many votes they're going to lose in the next election with Corbyn as leader and they're all terrified they'll lose their seats. Can't be arsed to google it now as it'll be buried under an avalanche of Corbyn articles but they did polling immediately after the referendum and they were looking at losing 25% of the people who voted for them last election.

    With Labour losing their Scotch seats the Conservatives will be unbeatable until both they wear out their welcome and Labour look electable, which will mean a Blairite leader and cabinet. You may not want to hear that but it's just inescapable fact.

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    Rich is right. I do not doubt Beanz's whole depiction of the multiethnic beginnings ---indeed he is spot on, but this is 2016, and there is a lot LESS ROOM than there was back when the total population was a fraction of today's----WAYYYY different dynamics now. People from the regions he mentioned were FAR MORE ETHNICALLY SIMILAR and so caused FAR LESS FRICTION AND TURMOIL than the hordes of immigrants from Somalia, Iraq, Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Rich is right. I do not doubt Beanz's whole depiction of the multiethnic beginnings ---indeed he is spot on, but this is 2016, and there is a lot LESS ROOM than there was back when the total population was a fraction of today's----WAYYYY different dynamics now. People from the regions he mentioned were FAR MORE ETHNICALLY SIMILAR and so caused FAR LESS FRICTION AND TURMOIL than the hordes of immigrants from Somalia, Iraq, Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Etc...
    Yes it's about population in the UK we have about three hundred thousand Somalia's claiming to be political refugees.
    Mostly young men something is a miss, anybody questions what's going on is classified a racist, that's how pathetic the UK has become.
    O dear you can't say that , you want to ask a question racist.
    I am NO racist but the pissed off people of the UK voted to leave we must be a Country full of racists then.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Rich is right. I do not doubt Beanz's whole depiction of the multiethnic beginnings ---indeed he is spot on, but this is 2016, and there is a lot LESS ROOM than there was back when the total population was a fraction of today's----WAYYYY different dynamics now. People from the regions he mentioned were FAR MORE ETHNICALLY SIMILAR and so caused FAR LESS FRICTION AND TURMOIL than the hordes of immigrants from Somalia, Iraq, Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Etc...
    Yes it's about population in the UK we have about three hundred thousand Somalia's claiming to be political refugees.
    Mostly young men something is a miss, anybody questions what's going on is classified a racist, that's how pathetic the UK has become.
    O dear you can't say that , you want to ask a question racist.
    I am NO racist but the pissed off people of the UK voted to leave we must be a Country full of racists then.?
    The Lefty Libz love to LABEL: "racist" and "xenophobe" and "Nazi" and "KKK" etc.

    Oldest trick in the book: DEMONIZE your opponent. Label him. Establish a connection in the audience's mind that ANY OPPOSITION IS A PRIORI RACIST OR EVIL OR XENOPHOBIC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Rich is right. I do not doubt Beanz's whole depiction of the multiethnic beginnings ---indeed he is spot on, but this is 2016, and there is a lot LESS ROOM than there was back when the total population was a fraction of today's----WAYYYY different dynamics now. People from the regions he mentioned were FAR MORE ETHNICALLY SIMILAR and so caused FAR LESS FRICTION AND TURMOIL than the hordes of immigrants from Somalia, Iraq, Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Etc...
    Yes it's about population in the UK we have about three hundred thousand Somalia's claiming to be political refugees.
    Mostly young men something is a miss, anybody questions what's going on is classified a racist, that's how pathetic the UK has become.
    O dear you can't say that , you want to ask a question racist.
    I am NO racist but the pissed off people of the UK voted to leave we must be a Country full of racists then.?
    Clearly Immigration was a key factor in the Leave campaign winning, but all the countries named above aren't European of course there is an immigration problem , but it is due to lack of control. Lack of actually KNOWING how many immigrants come into the country every year, Whether European or otherwise.
    I would dare to suggest that leaving Europe will make little or no difference to that and indeed could make matters worse.
    We didn't need to exit Europe , we needed to sort out the Border agency and CONTROL immigration.
    Usually when one political party is in turmoil, the other top 1 , maybe 2 , capitalize on that. I have never in my whole life ever seen a situation where the top 3 political parties are in deep crisis all at the same time. Who the fuck is going to run this country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Rich is right. I do not doubt Beanz's whole depiction of the multiethnic beginnings ---indeed he is spot on, but this is 2016, and there is a lot LESS ROOM than there was back when the total population was a fraction of today's----WAYYYY different dynamics now. People from the regions he mentioned were FAR MORE ETHNICALLY SIMILAR and so caused FAR LESS FRICTION AND TURMOIL than the hordes of immigrants from Somalia, Iraq, Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Etc...
    Yes it's about population in the UK we have about three hundred thousand Somalia's claiming to be political refugees.
    Mostly young men something is a miss, anybody questions what's going on is classified a racist, that's how pathetic the UK has become.
    O dear you can't say that , you want to ask a question racist.
    I am NO racist but the pissed off people of the UK voted to leave we must be a Country full of racists then.?
    Clearly Immigration was a key factor in the Leave campaign winning, but all the countries named above aren't European of course there is an immigration problem , but it is due to lack of control. Lack of actually KNOWING how many immigrants come into the country every year, Whether European or otherwise.
    I would dare to suggest that leaving Europe will make little or no difference to that and indeed could make matters worse.
    We didn't need to exit Europe , we needed to sort out the Border agency and CONTROL immigration.
    Usually when one political party is in turmoil, the other top 1 , maybe 2 , capitalize on that. I have never in my whole life ever seen a situation where the top 3 political parties are in deep crisis all at the same time. Who the fuck is going to run this country?
    Donald Trump. Both simultaneously. England can be our 52nd state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Rich is right. I do not doubt Beanz's whole depiction of the multiethnic beginnings ---indeed he is spot on, but this is 2016, and there is a lot LESS ROOM than there was back when the total population was a fraction of today's----WAYYYY different dynamics now. People from the regions he mentioned were FAR MORE ETHNICALLY SIMILAR and so caused FAR LESS FRICTION AND TURMOIL than the hordes of immigrants from Somalia, Iraq, Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Etc...
    Yes it's about population in the UK we have about three hundred thousand Somalia's claiming to be political refugees.
    Mostly young men something is a miss, anybody questions what's going on is classified a racist, that's how pathetic the UK has become.
    O dear you can't say that , you want to ask a question racist.
    I am NO racist but the pissed off people of the UK voted to leave we must be a Country full of racists then.?
    Clearly Immigration was a key factor in the Leave campaign winning, but all the countries named above aren't European of course there is an immigration problem , but it is due to lack of control. Lack of actually KNOWING how many immigrants come into the country every year, Whether European or otherwise.
    I would dare to suggest that leaving Europe will make little or no difference to that and indeed could make matters worse.
    We didn't need to exit Europe , we needed to sort out the Border agency and CONTROL immigration.
    Usually when one political party is in turmoil, the other top 1 , maybe 2 , capitalize on that. I have never in my whole life ever seen a situation where the top 3 political parties are in deep crisis all at the same time. Who the fuck is going to run this country?
    Yes we may not have needed to leave, ! but we have our politicians of all parties needing a good kick up the ass all of them.
    Nobody expected us to leave the EU but it happened,! don't blame take charge, sort out our border it's easier than most we are surrounded by sea are we not.
    General election next what do you think .?

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    Any douche bag who goes around spray painting and defacing should be forced to do community service, take a 90-day sensitivity and awareness class, be forced to study history and watch documentaries on relevant historical phenomena, be forced to pay for the financial damage done via spray painting/defacing, and then serve a maximum of 14 days behind bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Any douche bag who goes around spray painting and defacing should be forced to do community service, take a 90-day sensitivity and awareness class, be forced to study history and watch documentaries on relevant historical phenomena, be forced to pay for the financial damage done via spray painting/defacing, and then serve a maximum of 14 days behind bars.
    Damn that was like three months ago I painted that swastika on your door can't you let it go. It's my freedom of expression we are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Any douche bag who goes around spray painting and defacing should be forced to do community service, take a 90-day sensitivity and awareness class, be forced to study history and watch documentaries on relevant historical phenomena, be forced to pay for the financial damage done via spray painting/defacing, and then serve a maximum of 14 days behind bars.
    Damn that was like three months ago I painted that swastika on your door can't you let it go. It's my freedom of expression we are talking about.
    You are free to do it, but the owner of the door wasn't me.

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    Remember people had a vote and used it the outcome suited some and not others.
    Both leaders of both parties have fallen, uncontrolled immigration has ruined most of the EU as well.
    The large movement of people is doing great harm to Countries, what's wrong with looking after the locals it seems to be a dirty word British.
    I am feed up over giving Bevan gave us the British people the NHS, it's not
    For half of fucking Europe it's ours.
    I don't want to save a donkey or adopt a snow leopard, just the NHS.
    In the last election if more people got off there ass to vote the Tory's wouldn't be in power.
    More stupid fuckers are moaning about leaving the EU, remember most of the laws are made by comites, not by elected members very strange indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Remember people had a vote and used it the outcome suited some and not others.
    Both leaders of both parties have fallen, uncontrolled immigration has ruined most of the EU as well.
    The large movement of people is doing great harm to Countries, what's wrong with looking after the locals it seems to be a dirty word British.
    I am feed up over giving Bevan gave us the British people the NHS, it's not
    For half of fucking Europe it's ours.
    I don't want to save a donkey or adopt a snow leopard, just the NHS.
    In the last election if more people got off there ass to vote the Tory's wouldn't be in power.
    More stupid fuckers are moaning about leaving the EU, remember most of the laws are made by comites, not by elected members very strange indeed.
    My my, aren't you up late this evening.

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