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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
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    What's the better fight for Garcia? Thurman or Pac? He makes more vs Pac but imo it's a guaranteed loss I'm not sure if he beats Thurman either does Al cash him out vs Pac and hope for the best or keep it in house for now building a potential star?
    Cash in v Pac. Hes getting beat by Thurman and Pac but makes more v Pac. Id say there is about 10 fighters at 147 that beat him. Only top guys he beats is Vargas and Peterson. Maybe Khan in a rematch although Id have Khan as fav.
    That is absolute madness. Khan has horrendous defensive instincts. He tries to hide it behind his speed but Garcia knows that you beat speed by punching with a speedster. If you punch after they are gone. Garcia will catch Khan sooner or later. There are plenty of guys I would feel comfortable to pick against Garcia but Khan is not one of them.
    Good post Ron, agree with every single word. 👏👍
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    Obviously Primo you dont rate Khan at all. No matter who hes in against you're going to overrate his opponents chances

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
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    What's the better fight for Garcia? Thurman or Pac? He makes more vs Pac but imo it's a guaranteed loss I'm not sure if he beats Thurman either does Al cash him out vs Pac and hope for the best or keep it in house for now building a potential star?
    Cash in v Pac. Hes getting beat by Thurman and Pac but makes more v Pac. Id say there is about 10 fighters at 147 that beat him. Only top guys he beats is Vargas and Peterson. Maybe Khan in a rematch although Id have Khan as fav.
    That is absolute madness. Khan has horrendous defensive instincts. He tries to hide it behind his speed but Garcia knows that you beat speed by punching with a speedster. If you punch after they are gone. Garcia will catch Khan sooner or later. There are plenty of guys I would feel comfortable to pick against Garcia but Khan is not one of them.
    Good post Ron, agree with every single word. 👏👍
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    Obviously Primo you dont rate Khan at all. No matter who hes in against you're going to overrate his opponents chances
    I genuinely love the comeback Silks, I really do. and I'm honoured that you read all my other posts.
    As for "Overrating his opponents chances", we're talking about Garcia here, a man who knocked Khan out in 4 rounds. How can you possibly overrate a guy like that's chances?
    Moreover, it's his gameplan that makes it entirely possible , maybe even probable that the same thing could happen again!
    It was very simple , counteracting Khan's speed (albeit inaccurate and ineffective) with "same time" counter hooks. Garcia knew Khan couldn't hurt him and he knew that some time in the fight he would connect.
    Khan's only chance of winning against Garcia and almost anybody else at World level for that matter, is to pitter patter his way to a 12 round points win. But in order to do that , he has to avoid getting plugged for 12 rounds. I honestly think that technically Khan is incapable of this, and nothing in the last few years has convinced me of anything contrary to that opinion.
    In a nutshell mate, I think it is YOU that is guilty of overrating Khan.

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    Default Re: Pac coming out of "retirement"

    Khan beats Garcia in the return. Want a bet Primo?
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Default Re: Pac coming out of "retirement"

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    Khan beats Garcia in the return. Want a bet Primo?
    Let's see if it happens first mate. After all , Khan was offered a shot at Garcia's title last out and swerved it.
    If it comes off, I would gladly have a bet on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
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    Khan beats Garcia in the return. Want a bet Primo?
    Let's see if it happens first mate. After all , Khan was offered a shot at Garcia's title last out and swerved it.
    If it comes off, I would gladly have a bet on it.
    Ill take any action going too. Its a close fight but Khan is definitely favorite in my mind.

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    Well he knew the cut was very bad and a few more shots from Khan on it could have caused the fight to be stopped so I doubt he was acting patient in there and knew hed land eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
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    Khan beats Garcia in the return. Want a bet Primo?
    Let's see if it happens first mate. After all , Khan was offered a shot at Garcia's title last out and swerved it.
    If it comes off, I would gladly have a bet on it.
    Ill take any action going too. Its a close fight but Khan is definitely favorite in my mind.
    Excellent! If Khan is a definite favourite, I'll expect some decent odds from you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
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    Khan beats Garcia in the return. Want a bet Primo?
    Let's see if it happens first mate. After all , Khan was offered a shot at Garcia's title last out and swerved it.
    If it comes off, I would gladly have a bet on it.
    Ill take any action going too. Its a close fight but Khan is definitely favorite in my mind.
    Excellent! If Khan is a definite favourite, I'll expect some decent odds from you!
    Every bet here is a friendly bet. Even money bet with money back if a draw. You will get better with the bookies though.

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    Khan beats Garcia in the return. Want a bet Primo?
    Let's see if it happens first mate. After all , Khan was offered a shot at Garcia's title last out and swerved it.
    If it comes off, I would gladly have a bet on it.
    Ill take any action going too. Its a close fight but Khan is definitely favorite in my mind.
    Excellent! If Khan is a definite favourite, I'll expect some decent odds from you!
    Every bet here is a friendly bet. Even money bet with money back if a draw. You will get better with the bookies though.
    I'm more than happy to have a fun , friendly , even money bet with you bud. And if the prices are good, I might have one in the bookies as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
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    Khan beats Garcia in the return. Want a bet Primo?
    Let's see if it happens first mate. After all , Khan was offered a shot at Garcia's title last out and swerved it.
    If it comes off, I would gladly have a bet on it.
    Ill take any action going too. Its a close fight but Khan is definitely favorite in my mind.
    Excellent! If Khan is a definite favourite, I'll expect some decent odds from you!
    Every bet here is a friendly bet. Even money bet with money back if a draw. You will get better with the bookies though.
    I'm more than happy to have a fun , friendly , even money bet with you bud. And if the prices are good, I might have one in the bookies as well.
    Id say youll get between 6/4 and 7/4 with the bookies on Garcia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
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    Khan beats Garcia in the return. Want a bet Primo?
    Let's see if it happens first mate. After all , Khan was offered a shot at Garcia's title last out and swerved it.
    If it comes off, I would gladly have a bet on it.
    Ill take any action going too. Its a close fight but Khan is definitely favorite in my mind.
    Excellent! If Khan is a definite favourite, I'll expect some decent odds from you!
    Every bet here is a friendly bet. Even money bet with money back if a draw. You will get better with the bookies though.
    I'm more than happy to have a fun , friendly , even money bet with you bud. And if the prices are good, I might have one in the bookies as well.
    Id say youll get between 6/4 and 7/4 with the bookies on Garcia.
    Over here, he might even be longer than that. I mean, England were 9/1 to win the Euros!
    I'd probably back it up with a little bet on Garcia to KO Khan Between rounds 5-8.

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    Yea wouldnt be backing Garcia to win. Cant really win on points can he? Getting a bigger price on the KO so would be taking that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Yea wouldnt be backing Garcia to win. Cant really win on points can he? Getting a bigger price on the KO so would be taking that.
    You're right, it wouldn't go to points. Garcia wouldn't win on points and Khan won't get to see the final bell.

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