Is Carl Frampton "Fighter of the Year" so far in 2016?

[Primo Carnera]

Kiko was the champion. The champ is entitled to the bigger share. They had to pay over the odds to get Kiko back to belfast as a voluntary. I think I saw Framoton say in the build up to that fight that it was a big risk for him because he was getting peanuts for the fight and if he lost it would be a major stunt in his career. Maybe he was just saying that. I dont know. The examples you gave were all champs at the time so entitled to a bigger split then Frampton would have been v Kiko.

Sorry mate, you're completely right, I was thinking of the rematch and getting mixed up. Doh!
But my point was that McGuigan was making good dough out of it.

[Master]

Kiko was the champion. The champ is entitled to the bigger share. They had to pay over the odds to get Kiko back to belfast as a voluntary. I think I saw Framoton say in the build up to that fight that it was a big risk for him because he was getting peanuts for the fight and if he lost it would be a major stunt in his career. Maybe he was just saying that. I dont know. The examples you gave were all champs at the time so entitled to a bigger split then Frampton would have been v Kiko.

Sorry mate, you're completely right, I was thinking of the rematch and getting mixed up. Doh!
But my point was that McGuigan was making good dough out of it.

Why do you always pick on Barry? What about Hearn? He makes money too.

Barry has Carl's best interest at heart, now quit picking on the legend.

[Primo Carnera]

The difference is a.) Hearn knows what he's doing. And b.) Hearn doesn't have just one cash cow that he milks the whole family on! Him as Manager, one son as promoter, another son as trainer (who I think is worth his money btw.) renting the Gym in Mcguigan's basement, he probably charges Frampton for meals so his missus has a little earner out of it as well.
Frampton goes out there and gets his face punched in, and the Mcguigan's probably take more of the cake!

[Master]

The difference is a.) Hearn knows what he's doing. And b.) Hearn doesn't have just one cash cow that he milks the whole family on! Him as Manager, one son as promoter, another son as trainer (who I think is worth his money btw.) renting the Gym in Mcguigan's basement, he probably charges Frampton for meals so his missus has a little earner out of it as well.
Frampton goes out there and gets his face punched in, and the Mcguigan's probably take more of the cake!

No way. Carl is like a second son to Barry and he knows how it feels to be shafted as he was by his manager so he would never do that.

[Primo Carnera]

The difference is a.) Hearn knows what he's doing. And b.) Hearn doesn't have just one cash cow that he milks the whole family on! Him as Manager, one son as promoter, another son as trainer (who I think is worth his money btw.) renting the Gym in Mcguigan's basement, he probably charges Frampton for meals so his missus has a little earner out of it as well.
Frampton goes out there and gets his face punched in, and the Mcguigan's probably take more of the cake!

No way. Carl is like a second son to Barry and he knows how it feels to be shafted as he was by his manager so he would never do that.

I think you mean a 3rd son? The other two are managing and promoting him and taking a piece of the pie.
I must say after seeing Barry blubbering after the fight, I did feel a tiny bit guilty, but I still believe he puts his own interest first.

[nuggetdotcom]

The difference is a.) Hearn knows what he's doing. And b.) Hearn doesn't have just one cash cow that he milks the whole family on! Him as Manager, one son as promoter, another son as trainer (who I think is worth his money btw.) renting the Gym in Mcguigan's basement, he probably charges Frampton for meals so his missus has a little earner out of it as well.
Frampton goes out there and gets his face punched in, and the Mcguigan's probably take more of the cake!

No way. Carl is like a second son to Barry and he knows how it feels to be shafted as he was by his manager so he would never do that.

I think you mean a 3rd son? The other two are managing and promoting him and taking a piece of the pie.
I must say after seeing Barry blubbering after the fight, I did feel a tiny bit guilty, but I still believe he puts his own interest first.

What a load of complete and utter bollocks! Boxing is a mans game, and if grown men cant work out what manager/promoter/trainer to go with, to make the most monetary gain, then that is their lesson to learn, the hard way. To make the Hearn clan out as some kind of pseudo social workers helping out fighters, and everybody else as exploiters is fucking ridiculous, grow up.

[p4pking]

This is a weird little exchange. Also... isn't complete AND utter bollocks a bit redundant? I've wondered this before, it always sounds weird. It shouldn't be anyones concern what a fighters financial situation is aside from how it may affect the fights that get made. Frampton has had a great year, landing and winning two mega fights, whether he's been paid what he's brought in relative to others isn't exactly worth moaning about if he's happy, surely?

As an aside, I've been listening to some Hearn interviews lately and he's a sharp and reasonably genuine dude, at least at face value. I feel like if I were a fighter he'd be a lot easier to work something out with than most promoters.

[Primo Carnera]

The difference is a.) Hearn knows what he's doing. And b.) Hearn doesn't have just one cash cow that he milks the whole family on! Him as Manager, one son as promoter, another son as trainer (who I think is worth his money btw.) renting the Gym in Mcguigan's basement, he probably charges Frampton for meals so his missus has a little earner out of it as well.
Frampton goes out there and gets his face punched in, and the Mcguigan's probably take more of the cake!

No way. Carl is like a second son to Barry and he knows how it feels to be shafted as he was by his manager so he would never do that.

I think you mean a 3rd son? The other two are managing and promoting him and taking a piece of the pie.
I must say after seeing Barry blubbering after the fight, I did feel a tiny bit guilty, but I still believe he puts his own interest first.

What a load of complete and utter bollocks! Boxing is a mans game, and if grown men cant work out what manager/promoter/trainer to go with, to make the most monetary gain, then that is their lesson to learn, the hard way. To make the Hearn clan out as some kind of pseudo social workers helping out fighters, and everybody else as exploiters is fucking ridiculous, grow up.

Easy Tiger, who made Hearn out to be some Pseudo Social Worker? I can assure you I've called Hearn a cunt on many occasions, Infact I think I even titled a Thread once with those very same words.
Every Successful Promoter ever would've been seen in that light at some point of their careers, it's part of the job spec.
All I Said if you read above was that he knows what he's doing. And it is an undisputable FACT that he gets his guys more money than anybody else does, certainly in Britain. A perfect example of this is that Frampton's best ever payday was on a Matchroom bill.
it is pure business logic and mathematics that he doesn't take as much off each fighter because he has more of them to take it off. With McGuigan and Eubank Sr. for example , they're taking more off their one cash cow.
It's easy to say that "they're Man enough to sort out who promotes and manages them", but sometimes these guys are boxers, not Businessmen and they are tied either contractually or emotionally even.
hope that clears things up and you realize who is "Fuckin Ridiculous" and who is talking "Complete and utter bollocks"! hope you have a nice day.

[Silkeyjoe]

The difference is a.) Hearn knows what he's doing. And b.) Hearn doesn't have just one cash cow that he milks the whole family on! Him as Manager, one son as promoter, another son as trainer (who I think is worth his money btw.) renting the Gym in Mcguigan's basement, he probably charges Frampton for meals so his missus has a little earner out of it as well.
Frampton goes out there and gets his face punched in, and the Mcguigan's probably take more of the cake!

I hope your being dramatic I definitely agree that if Frampton stayed with Hearn hed have made a lot more money by now. Similar to Eubank Jr and possibly George Groves?

In saying that though Hearn is the only promoter in the UK and Ireland who can really offer the big bucks and have to admire Frampton for sticking with his manager rather than following the cash.

Although a bit hypocritical of me when hes chasing the cash now rather than fighting Rigo

[Primo Carnera]

The difference is a.) Hearn knows what he's doing. And b.) Hearn doesn't have just one cash cow that he milks the whole family on! Him as Manager, one son as promoter, another son as trainer (who I think is worth his money btw.) renting the Gym in Mcguigan's basement, he probably charges Frampton for meals so his missus has a little earner out of it as well.
Frampton goes out there and gets his face punched in, and the Mcguigan's probably take more of the cake!

I hope your being dramatic I definitely agree that if Frampton stayed with Hearn hed have made a lot more money by now. Similar to Eubank Jr and possibly George Groves?

In saying that though Hearn is the only promoter in the UK and Ireland who can really offer the big bucks and have to admire Frampton for sticking with his manager rather than following the cash.

Although a bit hypocritical of me when hes chasing the cash now rather than fighting Rigo

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