Black Lives Matter? Eh?

[Dark Lord Al]

I think " RAP " has a lot to do with peoples negative attitude towards black people.
I mean firstly it isn't music , and secondly looking like 5 Cent isn't a good look.
I've never understood why some black people call each other NIGGA but its negative for a white person to refer to them as that.
As for any innocent person being shot wrongly by Policemen that isn't ever a good thing , but criminals being shot by police is a good thing , the secret is knowing the difference.

[denilson200]

I think " RAP " has a lot to do with peoples negative attitude towards black people.

Most rap music purchases are made by whites. So it's whites who have the thug image has been marketable and created a financial incentive for black artists to play up to that.

If white folks were interested in buying CDs or downloads by rap artists who sang about radical social transformation and community uplift and racism

And yes there are many, many such artists out there

Then that’s the music that would be churned out in larger numbers. But white consumers aren’t, by and large, looking to buy songs about overthrowing the system from which you benefit.

White boys would rather listen to songs about guns and drugs, and being a thug.

It's white buyers who make that kind of rap profitable, but instead of asking for any responsibility from them, you blame the artists for doing what they’re supposed to do in a capitalist system, which is respond to market demand, no matter the social consequences.

I've never understood why some black people call each other NIGGA but its negative for a white person to refer to them as that.

A white person calling a black person the N-word is not the real issue.

The issue is that the insult takes place against a backdrop of systemic and institutional racism. And that backdrop–of housing and job discrimination, racial profiling, unequal health care access, and a media that regularly presents blacks in the worst possible light makes verbal insults (even if relatively minor) take on a bigger meaning.

That’s why a black person calling a white person honky or cracker does not bother most whites because it’s lacks any institutional force to back up those words.

Now if black people could deny white people jobs, housing, health care, decent educations, or their physical freedom via the justice system and hold white people back in every imaginable way and HATE WHITE PEOPLE en mass via de jure and de facto racism for HUNDREDS of years, thereby wrecking their lives

Then you better believe white people would not like being called honky or cracker by black people

So black people are well aware that racial insults used against us, are often the tip of a much larger iceberg.

Also most white people don't know any black people. So what you know of black people is from TV which is controlled by white people. Most black people I know in real life rarely if ever use the word.

But the historic use of the n-word in the white community is not one of mixed meaning.

It is not a history in which white people called black people the word, as if it meant

“hey, let’s go grab a burger and fries.”

In the hearts of whites, that word has only been used in the context of hate.

As such, for any white person to use it today is to force the black person hearing it to immediately wonder what’s behind the comment, what the speaker’s intent really is, in a way they don’t have to sweat as readily when spoken by another black person.

For me personally there is no racial name a white person can say to me that would offend me. There are things they can do that would offend me. But nothing they can say

I mean firstly it isn't music , and secondly looking like 5 Cent isn't a good look.

I'm sure 50 cents bank manager would disagree. Saying 50 cent is not a good for black people is a stupid as me saying Marilyn Manson is not a good look for white people.

[Primo Carnera]

I think " RAP " has a lot to do with peoples negative attitude towards black people.

Most rap music purchases are made by whites. So it's whites who have the thug image has been marketable and created a financial incentive for black artists to play up to that.

If white folks were interested in buying CDs or downloads by rap artists who sang about radical social transformation and community uplift and racism

And yes there are many, many such artists out there

Then that’s the music that would be churned out in larger numbers. But white consumers aren’t, by and large, looking to buy songs about overthrowing the system from which you benefit.

White boys would rather listen to songs about guns and drugs, and being a thug.

It's white buyers who make that kind of rap profitable, but instead of asking for any responsibility from them, you blame the artists for doing what they’re supposed to do in a capitalist system, which is respond to market demand, no matter the social consequences.

I've never understood why some black people call each other NIGGA but its negative for a white person to refer to them as that.

A white person calling a black person the N-word is not the real issue.

The issue is that the insult takes place against a backdrop of systemic and institutional racism. And that backdrop–of housing and job discrimination, racial profiling, unequal health care access, and a media that regularly presents blacks in the worst possible light makes verbal insults (even if relatively minor) take on a bigger meaning.

That’s why a black person calling a white person honky or cracker does not bother most whites because it’s lacks any institutional force to back up those words.

Now if black people could deny white people jobs, housing, health care, decent educations, or their physical freedom via the justice system and hold white people back in every imaginable way and HATE WHITE PEOPLE en mass via de jure and de facto racism for HUNDREDS of years, thereby wrecking their lives

Then you better believe white people would not like being called honky or cracker by black people

So black people are well aware that racial insults used against us, are often the tip of a much larger iceberg.

Also most white people don't know any black people. So what you know of black people is from TV which is controlled by white people. Most black people I know in real life rarely if ever use the word.

But the historic use of the n-word in the white community is not one of mixed meaning.

It is not a history in which white people called black people the word, as if it meant

“hey, let’s go grab a burger and fries.”

In the hearts of whites, that word has only been used in the context of hate.

As such, for any white person to use it today is to force the black person hearing it to immediately wonder what’s behind the comment, what the speaker’s intent really is, in a way they don’t have to sweat as readily when spoken by another black person.

For me personally there is no racial name a white person can say to me that would offend me. There are things they can do that would offend me. But nothing they can say

I mean firstly it isn't music , and secondly looking like 5 Cent isn't a good look.

I'm sure 50 cents bank manager would disagree. Saying 50 cent is not a good for black people is a stupid as me saying Marilyn Manson is not a good look for white people.

You come up with some really salient points and then you throw in shit like.....
"Also most white people don't know any black people. So what you know of black people is from TV which is controlled' by white people."

What a load of shit! What most people don't like is self pitying, "the World is against me" type of people who assume and make up stuff! And to be honest , it don't matter whether they're Black, White, Yellow, Pink , Green or Fuckin Blue!
Have a nice day.

[denilson200]

Cops are people and they have very dangerous jobs.

Not really.

How many cops have been killed by an unarmed citizen? ZERO.
How many times a year does a police officer get beaten to death? ZERO.
How many officers in the field are killed each year by violence ? 0.5 per state.

There are over 900,000 sworn law enforcement officers and less than one officer per state meets a violent demise, only 100 officers are killed in the line of duty each year, mostly by vehicle accidents.

That said, I have NEVER had a policeman do ANYTHING that has positively effected me, but do I want them all dead? Do I want them disbanded? NO!

Straw man argument. Who wants cops dead ? Who wants them disbanded ?

They perform a function in society which we need, they do their job to the best of their abilities,

Cops are needed. Suspected white supremacist posing as cops are not needed.

they DO make mistakes from time to time, there ARE some bad cops just like there ARE some bad bankers.

They don't mistakes. If they did, then the people who they kill would be evenly spread out. They know not to shot white people in general (Especially well to do white people) let them do a drug bust at the white students at Harvard or Yale. I dare them and trust me they would find more drugs than any drug raid they do in the hood.

But they know best not fuck with those type people. They know who they can kill. That's why they kill black people because they know they can get away. They know the public at large will support (Zimmerman, Darren Wilson, Freddie Gray and many more) They also know the system will acquit them.

.can't throw the baby out with the bathwater the response has to have some nuance to it and in cases like Baltimore you've got a Black Chief of Police, Black DA, Black Mayor, and Black officers (3 of 6) in the Freddie Gray event....so do I buy what denilson and BLM are saying that "All cops are racist and are out to kill black people"? NO that is idiotic.

The Freddie gray situation is further proof that the "I'm white and I say so" law, supersedes the Constitution. White supremacy IS the law

Yeah sure they have a Black Chief of Police, Black DA, Black Mayor, and Black officers but they all controlled by WHITE SUPREMACIST.

They set the culture.

According to the state of Maryland, Freddie Gray deserved to die for looking at a police officer a certain way. A man was alive, police showed up and now he is dead, and nobody involved has been made to accept responsibility for his death.

However, I also realize that the existing cops-can-do-no-wrong-mantra is beneficial to the careers of DAs, judges, politicians.

The DOJ concluded:

“We found that BPD has engaged in a pattern or practice of serious violations of the U.S. Constitution and federal law that has disproportionately harmed Baltimore’s African-American community and eroded the public’s trust in the police.”

Jared Taylor, David Duke, Stormfront, The Daily Stormer, The Daily Wire, Ambrose Kane and the rest of the nationalist groups are well-known for mentioning DOJ reports on Black crime but will NEVER mention the DOJ report on the Baltimore Police Department. We know why.

[brocktonblockbust]

Denilson's view of what the world should be like: No cops anywhere at all and let the people roam around doing all sorts of illegal ship however they want and no law enforcement anywhere at all. That is his wish for the world.

In another fantasy he has it would be only black cops all over the world shooting white people.

[Dia bando]

Denilson's view of what the world should be like: No cops anywhere at all and let the people roam around doing all sorts of illegal ship however they want and no law enforcement anywhere at all. That is his wish for the world.

In another fantasy he has it would be only black cops all over the world shooting white people.

Yes that's about right a law unto himself.

[El Kabong]

"Yeah sure they have a Black Chief of Police, Black DA, Black Mayor, and Black officers but they all controlled by WHITE SUPREMACIST."

Barack Obama? Eric Holder? Ummm Loretta Lynch?

Black, Black, and Black.....NEXT!

[Beanz]

Denilson's view of what the world should be like: No cops anywhere at all and let the people roam around doing all sorts of illegal ship however they want and no law enforcement anywhere at all. That is his wish for the world.

In another fantasy he has it would be only black cops all over the world shooting white people.

WEAK STRAWMAN ARGUMENT. In the post above he expressly says

"Cops are needed. Suspected white supremacist posing as cops are not needed."

I have always from day one tried to be Devil's advocate here, but in this case you and Al and Dia are just shooting yourself in the foot by being so eager to trip him up that you just invent a dumb persona for him, and squeeze him into that stereotype. It just weakens any sound argument you may have had and actually makes you look dumb in the process.

You will now suggest that I must agree with everything Denilson says because ironically enough you have turned the entire mode of discourse across the non boxing boards into Black and White, My way or the highway.

You mistake your opinionated drivel as conversation and discourse.

[walrus]

Denilson is no better than a pig headed white supremacist. Of course issues exist in or country but denilson states all whites are evil and rascist and he wishes to see more dead white people. Screw him.

[Dia bando]

Denilson's view of what the world should be like: No cops anywhere at all and let the people roam around doing all sorts of illegal ship however they want and no law enforcement anywhere at all. That is his wish for the world.

In another fantasy he has it would be only black cops all over the world shooting white people.

WEAK STRAWMAN ARGUMENT. In the post above he expressly says

"Cops are needed. Suspected white supremacist posing as cops are not needed."

I have always from day one tried to be Devil's advocate here, but in this case you and Al and Dia are just shooting yourself in the foot by being so eager to trip him up that you just invent a dumb persona for him, and squeeze him into that stereotype. It just weakens any sound argument you may have had and actually makes you look dumb in the process.

You will now suggest that I must agree with everything Denilson says because ironically enough you have turned the entire mode of discourse across the non boxing boards into Black and White, My way or the highway.

You mistake your opinionated drivel as conversation and discourse.

Beanz you are at it again support the underdog shit why bother, because we don't like what he says if you feel that strongly hold his hand, to be honest he would not piss on you or me if we were on fire mate.!

[denilson200]

Denilson's view of what the world should be like: No cops anywhere at all and let the people roam around doing all sorts of illegal ship however they want and no law enforcement anywhere at all. That is his wish for the world.

In another fantasy he has it would be only black cops all over the world shooting white people.

Maybe if you stopped trying to read my mind and read my words you might learn something.

Cop's are needed, race soldiers pretending to be cops are not. Now if you view that as me saying that I'm saying there should be no cops then that's on you.

[brocktonblockbust]

Denilson's view of what the world should be like: No cops anywhere at all and let the people roam around doing all sorts of illegal ship however they want and no law enforcement anywhere at all. That is his wish for the world.

In another fantasy he has it would be only black cops all over the world shooting white people.

Maybe if you stopped trying to read my mind and read my words you might learn something.

Cop's are needed, race soldiers pretending to be cops are not. Now if you view that as me saying that I'm saying there should be no cops then that's on you.

Your racist views should have got you banned at least temporarily long ago. Others have been banned for far less. That is only because if you were banned it would only give you more fuel for your whacko racist philosophy.

Lucky you Denilson.

Lucky you.

The 2nd Amendment people though @El Kabong I don't know.....

[brocktonblockbust]

SJW BHL Hero and Sticker-Upper for the Downtrodden and Emergency Pre-Emptive Squelcher and Annihilator as well as Moral High-Grounder and Self-Appointed Savior of Humanity's "Better Half" before its "too late" and all the "good" people "go away", ladies and gentleman please welcome that Defender and Pointer-Outer of All Things Good, Righteous, and Correct, Mr. Green "The Puritanical Pugilist" Beanzsky!

(Wild applause, trumpets, crumpets, and muppets, some clotted cream to boot).

[Master]

In answer to the question. yes Black lives matter.

[Dia bando]

In answer to the question. yes Black lives matter.

Don't all lives matter mate, he seems to think criminals if they are black can carry on with impunity, and not pay the price for their actions.
Strange view he has got.!