What happened to Wlad?

[nuggetdotcom]

Aside from everything else that was mentioned....

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Had a good run, made a few quid, less easy for future promoters pimps, no need to do trash talk with Irish Pikeys etc., you work it out

[KickMuck]

To the people saying Vlad has to Knock Fury out to win> err Bollox. He just has to win like in any other heavyweight rematch. If he out boxes Fury he wins. Manchester aint Munich.

[Gandalf]

I think Wlad has to win by KO, but simply because of the styles and what I saw in the first fight. Fury will be busier than Wlad who has always had to pace himself very, very carefully because of stamina issues. Fury will win rounds just by being more active. The Fury size and awkwardness just seems all wrong for Wlad. He has to let his hands go and try and score a stoppage, but it will leave him open and potentially hurt himself or at least winded.
I struggle to see Wlad outboxing Fury on a consistent basis.

[erics44]

He didn't have a reach advantage for a change, consequently he had to be ultra negative due to his phobia of getting tagged.

He was faced with an opponent he couldn't just clench all night long.

It was as simple as this

And who was that down to?

Wasnt just Tysons size or Wach would also have beaten Wlad

yeah it was down to fury, he did very well


my point is tho, its a sad state of affairs that the way to beat the long reigning champion is to stop him holding


coz really that's what fury did, avoid the clinch, its not like he landed lots of punches


again tho im not knocking fury, he did absolutely the right thing, the ref and the judges wouldn't have stopped wlad holding or punished him for it so fury had no choice, it was a great game plan

[ross]

He didn't have a reach advantage for a change, consequently he had to be ultra negative due to his phobia of getting tagged.

He was faced with an opponent he couldn't just clench all night long.

It was as simple as this

And who was that down to?

Wasnt just Tysons size or Wach would also have beaten Wlad

yeah it was down to fury, he did very well


my point is tho, its a sad state of affairs that the way to beat the long reigning champion is to stop him holding


coz really that's what fury did, avoid the clinch, its not like he landed lots of punches


again tho im not knocking fury, he did absolutely the right thing, the ref and the judges wouldn't have stopped wlad holding or punished him for it so fury had no choice, it was a great game plan

He may not have landed alot but who does against Wlad? He landed more than anyone else including Haye.

Wlad is just very good, Fury is better.

[erics44]

wlad is the worst "significant" champion at any weight in history

[ross]

Why? Because his style isnt attractive?

Count how many undefeated fiters he beat, how many fighters he stopped, not many heard the final bell.

[erics44]

no because his style was based on holding


take away the holding he would have lost his title many times


holding is against the rules, he was allowed to hold because of the money he generated


that doesn't take any thing away from fury, in fact it adds to his achievement, fury was able to beat a long standing champion who had been allowed to cheat ridiculously for many years

[Batman]

It might just be me but Ross sounds like he is still arguing with people when they are actually agreeing with him.

[Primo Carnera]

It might just be me but Ross sounds like he is still arguing with people when they are actually agreeing with him.

no mate, what he's TRYING to do is big up Wlad, because that somehow makes Tyson even more amazing in his eyes!

[johnsebastianmiran]

Lack of proper training. Lack of real ambition. Was not hungry enough that night he lost to Fury. Did not look as though he wanted to be there. No inspiration and he looked like he would rather go running pushing a baby carriage. Fury got into his head and his next training camp should be somewhere like Lou Costello said in one of his movies, "I'll move so far away that it'll cost twenty five dollars just to send a post card. Wlad didn't look hard and he hesitated more than some guy who didn't want to go to his own wedding and many of us can relate to that. Those who take no chances get no rewards.

[ross]

It might just be me but Ross sounds like he is still arguing with people when they are actually agreeing with him.

no mate, what he's TRYING to do is big up Wlad, because that somehow makes Tyson even more amazing in his eyes!

Do I really need to big up a fighter who is on most peoples top ten all time greatest heavies?

[Primo Carnera]

It might just be me but Ross sounds like he is still arguing with people when they are actually agreeing with him.

no mate, what he's TRYING to do is big up Wlad, because that somehow makes Tyson even more amazing in his eyes!

Do I really need to big up a fighter who is on most peoples top ten all time greatest heavies?

There you go again.

[Memphis]

It might just be me but Ross sounds like he is still arguing with people when they are actually agreeing with him.

no mate, what he's TRYING to do is big up Wlad, because that somehow makes Tyson even more amazing in his eyes!

Do I really need to big up a fighter who is on most peoples top ten all time greatest heavies?

Define 'most people'

[ross]

It might just be me but Ross sounds like he is still arguing with people when they are actually agreeing with him.

no mate, what he's TRYING to do is big up Wlad, because that somehow makes Tyson even more amazing in his eyes!

Do I really need to big up a fighter who is on most peoples top ten all time greatest heavies?

Define 'most people'

Journalists who other people pay to read their opinions.