How would a Prime Cotto and Margarito do vs todays Elite Welterweights

[Master]

Cotto was at his best at light welter until he struggled to make weight and then got knocked down. Cotto did struggle with big welters so Thurman/Brooks would cause issues.

Just shows you how good Cotto was to win a title at light middle.

[TitoFan]

Cotto was at his best at light welter until he struggled to make weight and then got knocked down. Cotto did struggle with big welters so Thurman/Brooks would cause issues.

Just shows you how good Cotto was to win a title at light middle.

Yeah, people forget Cotto's fights at 140. His frame was perfect for that weight. Welter was pushing it.

[Master]

Cotto was at his best at light welter until he struggled to make weight and then got knocked down. Cotto did struggle with big welters so Thurman/Brooks would cause issues.

Just shows you how good Cotto was to win a title at light middle.

Yeah, people forget Cotto's fights at 140. His frame was perfect for that weight. Welter was pushing it.

What about Prime Cotto v Crawford at 140lb? Now that would be good.

[TitoFan]

Cotto was at his best at light welter until he struggled to make weight and then got knocked down. Cotto did struggle with big welters so Thurman/Brooks would cause issues.

Just shows you how good Cotto was to win a title at light middle.

Yeah, people forget Cotto's fights at 140. His frame was perfect for that weight. Welter was pushing it.

What about Prime Cotto v Crawford at 140lb? Now that would be good.

Oh yeah... excellent fight. Crawford's a terrific tactician and counterpuncher, but then so was Cotto in his prime.

[wanderingfighter]

In my opinion is impossible to come to a conclusion other than both Margarito and Cotto would be competitive against the top welters of today. Success in the sport of boxing at the highest level is mostly tied to the conditioning of the fighter. Conditioning happens at the training camp prior to the fight, so this leads me to agreeing with the good ol saying that you're only as good as your last fight. But, both Margarito and Cotto are good fighters to bet on though, depending on the stylistic matchup. I still think both at their prime would lose to Pac (and Floyd) even this version of Pac (38 years old) today.

[erics44]

there are two threads around at the minute that really get my goat

the price or molina thread and this one

on the other thread people argue Teper would have definitely beaten price, peds or no peds despite his failure being one of the worse in history, and on this thread someone mentions margarito and everyone is in full agreement that he'd have been shit if it wasn't for the loaded gloves

Jesus wept

[Spicoli]

I'd pay to see early Cotto at 140 face and beat down a Broner. Margarito and Thurman would have been a war.

[p4pking]

there are two threads around at the minute that really get my goat

the price or molina thread and this one

on the other thread people argue Teper would have definitely beaten price, peds or no peds despite his failure being one of the worse in history, and on this thread someone mentions margarito and everyone is in full agreement that he'd have been shit if it wasn't for the loaded gloves

Jesus wept

It's the way the fights went that leads people to think that. Price clearly was terrified of getting hit and got starched very early with one punch he left himself wide open for, attrition played virtually no role in that fight. It's possible Teper wouldn't have even been capable of fighting 2 spirited rounds without drugs, I've never seen him aside from that night, but it' also fair to assume Price was garbage and would have probably lost to anyone decent.

[Dean Duke]

Cotto was at his best at light welter until he struggled to make weight and then got knocked down. Cotto did struggle with big welters so Thurman/Brooks would cause issues.

Just shows you how good Cotto was to win a title at light middle.

Yeah, people forget Cotto's fights at 140. His frame was perfect for that weight. Welter was pushing it.

What about Prime Cotto v Crawford at 140lb? Now that would be good.

Oh yeah... excellent fight. Crawford's a terrific tactician and counterpuncher, but then so was Cotto in his prime.

Cotto would of dropped the shot in the balls for sure

[TitoFan]

Cotto was at his best at light welter until he struggled to make weight and then got knocked down. Cotto did struggle with big welters so Thurman/Brooks would cause issues.

Just shows you how good Cotto was to win a title at light middle.

Yeah, people forget Cotto's fights at 140. His frame was perfect for that weight. Welter was pushing it.

What about Prime Cotto v Crawford at 140lb? Now that would be good.

Oh yeah... excellent fight. Crawford's a terrific tactician and counterpuncher, but then so was Cotto in his prime.

Cotto would of dropped the shot in the balls for sure

Only if necessary, and at a strategic time.

[Master]

Cotto was at his best at light welter until he struggled to make weight and then got knocked down. Cotto did struggle with big welters so Thurman/Brooks would cause issues.

Just shows you how good Cotto was to win a title at light middle.

Yeah, people forget Cotto's fights at 140. His frame was perfect for that weight. Welter was pushing it.

What about Prime Cotto v Crawford at 140lb? Now that would be good.

Oh yeah... excellent fight. Crawford's a terrific tactician and counterpuncher, but then so was Cotto in his prime.

Cotto would of dropped the shot in the balls for sure

Only if necessary, and at a strategic time.

Tito did the same.