WHO wins on November 8th??

[Kirkland Laing]

You don't understand charts and graphs when I do post them. We both know exposing you to facts and evidence just makes you angry and upset. Even on the rare occasions something does manage to land on the shelf they never stay there for anything more than a few days.

It looks like Trump is planning a massive economic stimulus programme. I'm just interested in getting your thoughts on a massive big government spending programme so that I can compare them to your 2009 views on the massive big government Obama spending programme that the GOP blocked?

So you're saying you can't back up your claims then? OK, I just wanted to be clear.


Ah you mean because Barack Obama failed to address infrastructure issues which he was specifically given funds for.....yeah, Trump will have to tidy up Obama's mess we all knew it was going to happen because Obama sure as fuck didn't do a damned thing about it even though he was given the money to. And if Trump doesn't accomplish it, then he's going to be on the hook for it.

I already explained everything. It's just you can't understand it. Bigger shelf mate.


$478B Infrastructure Bill Blocked by Senate GOP

March 25, 2015








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It was another clear reminder of just how far apart the two parties are on any number of issues – including how to finance infrastructure spending.
Senate Republicans defeated a Democratic amendment to the proposed 2016 budget on Tuesday. It was aimed at kick-starting negotiations between the White House and Congress over a new multi-year program for funding highway, bridge and other infrastructure projects.

$478B Infrastructure Bill Blocked by Senate GOP | The Fiscal Times


Well, on Tuesday, the Administration unveiled a four-year, $300-billion transportation bill. It included a 22% increase in highway funding, a 70% increase in transit funding, and a provision allowing states to put tolls on interstates. At a time when one in nine U.S. bridges are rated “structurally deficient,” and nearly half the public lacks access to public transit, it’s a pretty ambitious piece of legislation. And this is probably the first you’re hearing of it, because it got virtually no media attention.

It reflects the unspoken recognition that no matter how much Republicans say they care about infrastructure, they’re not going to accept any infrastructure proposals that come from President Barack Obama. They opposed his $50 billion “roads, rails and runways” proposal in 2010, and then again when it was expanded and incorporated into his American Jobs Act in 2011. They’ve blocked Obama’s plans for an infrastructure bank and a national high-speed rail network. They’ve also blocked Obama’s proposals for corporate tax reform, which is relevant, because the new GROW AMERICA Act depends on tax reform for much of its financing.

Barack Obama Floats Transportation Bill But Republican Balk


For example, just three years after the President proposed a $53 billion investment in high-speed rail —and got nothing out of Congress—he is now requesting just $5 billion.
But that’s just a bow to political reality. Republicans say nice things about infrastructure but haven’t shown any interest in paying for it. As a result, the nation has failed to take advantage of historically low interest rates to invest more in our overcrowded airports, outdated railways and flimsy bridges. Through the stimulus and other programs, the Administration has helped promote a smart electric grid, a digitized health care system, and other investments that ought to be seen as infrastructure; spending billions of dollars on new concrete is not always the best approach to meeting the needs of a modern economy. Still, our national infrastructure—the traditional concrete kind as well as the new-fangled digital kind—clearly needs an upgrade. In 2013, the American Society of Civil Engineers gave it a D-plus. And that was an improvement over the last report card.
Infrastructure advocates often complain that Obama hasn’t used his bully pulpit enough to push for an investment program. But he barnstormed the country for the American Jobs Act. He has talked about rebuilding America in every State of the Union address. His problem is not a lack of will or poor messaging. His problem is that he doesn’t have the votes. Republicans control the House, and they can block legislation in the Senate. If they were willing to pass an Obama infrastructure bill, then an Obama infrastructure bill might make news.

WASHINGTON -- Republicans in the Senate Thursday dealt President Barack Obama the third in a string of defeats on his stimulus-style jobs agenda, blocking a $60 billion measure for building and repairing infrastructure like roads and rail lines.
Supporters of the failed measure said it would have created tens of thousands of construction jobs and lifted the still-struggling economy. But Republicans unanimously opposed it for its tax surcharge on the wealthy and spending totals they said were too high.

Senate GOP blocks Obama infrastructure plan | cleveland.com


and so on. Even if you were ever aware of this originally clearly it has long, long ago fallen off your little shelf.

But now it loks like the GOP are going to fund Trump's infrastructure plan. Do you still feel the same way about infrastructure spending that you did in 2009 or do you now think it's a good idea?