I especially hate posting about it due to my silly username I agree with Ron though, the term is supposed to mean who is the best fighter, in terms of technical ability and physical gifts relative to their size, and I have his same top 3. When people say someone doesn't have the wins to be ahead of someone they are clearly better than, it makes the discussion a bit silly. Loma currently has no possible way of surpassing Ward by that measure, because nobody within a reasonable weight of him is as worthy as some of the guys Ward beat years ago. It's a bit hazy when you have a guy who is coming up and truly untested, I get that also, so I agree Spence maybe can't be in the top 5 for now, even though I'm fairly sure he will be whenever he gets a big fight.