Anis Amri *GUNNED DOWN* by ITALIAN POLICE in Milano

[Beanz]

Where have I said it was a coincidence he was Muslim? And why would I declare war on a country that was recently the victim of a terrorist attack? Just because Brockton claims I am an apologist doesn't mean I am. I am not the one seeking to lay the blame on Merkel.

[walrus]

It seems a lot of people who promote open borders, diversity, etc either live in remote corners or have the money to insulate themselves from it. I'm not against all immigration but do think illegals should be deported especially if they have criminal records. I've lived and worked in cities and seen how this type of unchecked immigration can harm communities.

[Beanz]

It seems a lot of people who promote open borders, diversity, etc either live in remote corners or have the money to insulate themselves from it. I'm not against all immigration but do think illegals should be deported especially if they have criminal records. I've lived and worked in cities and seen how this type of unchecked immigration can harm communities.

Of course illegals should be deported especially if they have criminal records. I don't think though that promoting diversity is something reserved for people with money. I have found that those with the least are often the most generous and open.

[walrus]

It seems a lot of people who promote open borders, diversity, etc either live in remote corners or have the money to insulate themselves from it. I'm not against all immigration but do think illegals should be deported especially if they have criminal records. I've lived and worked in cities and seen how this type of unchecked immigration can harm communities.

Of course illegals should be deported especially if they have criminal records. I don't think though that promoting diversity is something reserved for people with money. I have found that those with the least are often the most generous and open.

No not in a way of influence. Immigration laws even illegal immigration loopholes are set by those who benefit from it. Silicon Valley spends millions pushing for high tech work visas. Immigration is finance its about money not people

[walrus]

Even Merkles abortion of Islamic immigration had its base in paying Germany's pensions. Governmental systems are to corrupted to deal with compassionate immigration any longer. Everyone needs there cash fix

[El Kabong]

Where have I said it was a coincidence he was Muslim? And why would I declare war on a country that was recently the victim of a terrorist attack? Just because Brockton claims I am an apologist doesn't mean I am. I am not the one seeking to lay the blame on Merkel.

The extent that you take things literally is just astounding! Are you on the Aspergers spectrum? (He asked facetiously).

If a German had attacked Brits that way and previously other Germans had made such attacks....you MIGHT not be so naively welcoming to them!


You care about Refugees yes? Then why isn't a safe zone closer to their homes with people of the same/similar culture a more ideal solution? Especially considering that ISIS/Al Qaeda ARE exploiting the refugee system. And yes, this was a Tunisian refugee brought to you by the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION'S Arab Spring....but maybe we should feel sorry for the poor lad, he was only looking for economic freedom.

I'm NOT going to just be ok with anyone and everyone flooding into my country. You can have a social safety net or open borders you CAN'T HAVE BOTH!

[Beanz]

Where have I said it was a coincidence he was Muslim? And why would I declare war on a country that was recently the victim of a terrorist attack? Just because Brockton claims I am an apologist doesn't mean I am. I am not the one seeking to lay the blame on Merkel.

The extent that you take things literally is just astounding! Are you on the Aspergers spectrum? (He asked facetiously).

If a German had attacked Brits that way and previously other Germans had made such attacks....you MIGHT not be so naively welcoming to them!


You care about Refugees yes? Then why isn't a safe zone closer to their homes with people of the same/similar culture a more ideal solution? Especially considering that ISIS/Al Qaeda ARE exploiting the refugee system. And yes, this was a Tunisian refugee brought to you by the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION'S Arab Spring....but maybe we should feel sorry for the poor lad, he was only looking for economic freedom.

I'm NOT going to just be ok with anyone and everyone flooding into my country. You can have a social safety net or open borders you CAN'T HAVE BOTH!

Except he was not a refugee and is not just another thing you can blame on Obama. He is a criminal and just like those illegally trafficking guns borders are irrelevant to such people. This was a guy who drunk, had girlfriends and would not even be considered a Muslim by most other Muslims and yet you seem only able to use that as an excuse to deflect blame from HIM. Merkel. Muslims. SJW's. Anis Amri the backwards medieval dumb fuck Murdered all those people in Berlin and yet you and others want to use it as some point scoring excercise? I am not naive at all. You seem insistent on ascribing this to me in order to give your simplistic argument some credence. Them? Who is them ? Are all refugees terrorists? or all Muslims? or all Syrians? Why are you continuing to ignore Lebanon, Libya, Jordan and all the other places that have taken more Syrian refugees than Europe. Because it does not fit your narrative. You have an idea and will do anything to make things fit that idea. I have been part of a charity sending aid directly to Syria. To refugee camps in Syria and yet you continue to paint me as some naive fool welcoming terrorists across the channel. WTF is your obsession with telling Europeans how to run their lives ?

[Gandalf]

All I will say is that I cannot remember the last time a vetted English teacher picked up a truck and killed a bunch of local people. There is something to be said for a controlled immigration system where people who will overburden the welfare system with excessive child birth or cannot prove their background should just not be let into a country.

If you want to stop unchecked migration then you have to get serious with the countries that support terrorism, invade countries illegally etc. You block trade with them and put them on sanctions. The US does it to everyone. It is about time people got brave and fought back against the bullies. It's the only way. Control the borders and close off trade with the tyrants.

[walrus]

All I will say is that I cannot remember the last time a vetted English teacher picked up a truck and killed a bunch of local people. There is something to be said for a controlled immigration system where people who will overburden the welfare system with excessive child birth or cannot prove their background should just not be let into a country.

If you want to stop unchecked migration then you have to get serious with the countries that support terrorism, invade countries illegally etc. You block trade with them and put them on sanctions. The US does it to everyone. It is about time people got brave and fought back against the bullies. It's the only way. Control the borders and close off trade with the tyrants.

Miles with your struggle between communism and nationalism I'm surprised your head doesn't explode

[Gandalf]

All I will say is that I cannot remember the last time a vetted English teacher picked up a truck and killed a bunch of local people. There is something to be said for a controlled immigration system where people who will overburden the welfare system with excessive child birth or cannot prove their background should just not be let into a country.

If you want to stop unchecked migration then you have to get serious with the countries that support terrorism, invade countries illegally etc. You block trade with them and put them on sanctions. The US does it to everyone. It is about time people got brave and fought back against the bullies. It's the only way. Control the borders and close off trade with the tyrants.

Miles with your struggle between communism and nationalism I'm surprised your head doesn't explode

You know, I don't find it such a contradiction. The UK left was traditionally against the EU, it was against open borders. It understood that with a welfare state you cannot have such policies, that it would be harmful to the national interest. I just align with that way of thinking. It is the left itself that has mutated and become somewhat grotesque in ignoring those fundamentals. I am not a communist. I am just a simple, relatively traditional thinking social democrat with a serious dislike of monarchy. I don't really adhere to all left or nothing or all right or nothing. You could say I lack principles, but I argue it is because I have a bit of common sense. I can see the merits in different ideologies, but think a balance is a fair compromise. You can have some immigration, accept some refugees, but be careful about it and consult with the host population first. It's all people in ivory towers and they seldom get killed in any of the wars they start or the borders they refuse to moderate.

[brocktonblockbust]

Beanz just said quite clearly "OF COURSE ALL ILLEGALS SHOULD BE DEPORTED".

Now all of you leave him alone.

[El Kabong]

Except he was not a refugee and is not just another thing you can blame on Obama. He is a criminal and just like those illegally trafficking guns borders are irrelevant to such people. This was a guy who drunk, had girlfriends and would not even be considered a Muslim by most other Muslims and yet you seem only able to use that as an excuse to deflect blame from HIM. Merkel. Muslims. SJW's. Anis Amri the backwards medieval dumb fuck Murdered all those people in Berlin and yet you and others want to use it as some point scoring excercise? I am not naive at all. You seem insistent on ascribing this to me in order to give your simplistic argument some credence. Them? Who is them ? Are all refugees terrorists? or all Muslims? or all Syrians? Why are you continuing to ignore Lebanon, Libya, Jordan and all the other places that have taken more Syrian refugees than Europe. Because it does not fit your narrative. You have an idea and will do anything to make things fit that idea. I have been part of a charity sending aid directly to Syria. To refugee camps in Syria and yet you continue to paint me as some naive fool welcoming terrorists across the channel. WTF is your obsession with telling Europeans how to run their lives ?

He came over on a boat right after the 'Arab Spring' something the Obama Administration helped incite AND were quite proud of until the whole Libya debacle. As for the Arab Spring https://www.theguardian.com/world/co...nstability-war

So he was a "migrant" whether you consider him such or you consider him a "refugee" it doesn't matter what matters is he was from Tunisia, a Muslim nation, and he was a Muslim, and he pledged allegiance to ISIS.


"This was a guy who drunk" and "would not be considered Muslim by most other Muslims".....The 9/11 hijackers went to strip clubs and got drunk before they waged their Jihad. If you die a martyr your sins are wiped clean, so the belief goes. "He wouldn't be considered Muslim by other Muslims"....he pledged allegiance to ISIS, what more do you want?


Europeans won't fucking exist if you keep ignoring the issue at hand Beanz that's where I get off telling Europeans how to run their lives. You guys cannot afford to keep allowing this to happen. But I suppose you know best, you give to your charity which might help people in need or it might be a bit more nefarious. Hats got passed around for "charity" in Boston and New York and the money ended up going to the IRA but hey that's no big deal, I'm CERTAIN the charity you give to and all others are on the up and up and you know exactly where the money is going and what it's being used for.


In answer to your question: "Them? Who is them ? Are all refugees terrorists? or all Muslims? or all Syrians? Why are you continuing to ignore Lebanon, Libya, Jordan and all the other places that have taken more Syrian refugees than Europe" ....read this REALLY fucking close Beanz as I shan't explain it again. 'Them' = Militant Muslim Extremists (that's who them is...bruh), Are ALL refugees terrorists, no BUT Mr. All-or-Nothing quite a few of them have been. Are all Muslims terrorists? Nope, but again all of the terrorists in Europe recently (bar the explosion in Turkey a few weeks ago [Commies] ) have been Muslims (or haven't you noticed a trend?). Are all Syrians? Well honey, sweety, sugar....in case you haven't noticed a lot of these "refugees" ain't from Syria, they're migrants from other Middle Eastern/Muslim population centers. Attacks aren't happening so much in Lebanon, Libya, and Jordan, attacks are happening more in places with different, more Western cultures....in case you haven't noticed.

[El Kabong]

Migrants arrested after homeless man set on fire on Christmas Eve in Berlin | Daily Mail Online


Mere coincidence I tell you!!!!

[Master]

You carry on reading the Daily Mail and your mind will be warped.

[El Kabong]

You carry on reading the Daily Mail and your mind will be warped.

OK, so you dislike the messenger, but does that dilute the message? Were those 7 guys just trying to "provide warmth for the homeless man"?


Is the story true or not?