The Myth of the British National Health Servi

[Memphis]

So the myth is? That it's no good?

From a patient perspective I disagree. The service I've had personally and witnessed on behalf of family members is and always has been fantastic.

Also, for what it's worth. For every 'Best health service in the World', there's a 'falling apart at the seams' to go with it.

[Batman]

A few years back I was in hospital gettin my shoulder looked at, a nurse got talking to me and lets say she wasn't the most politically correct of people, in her eyes the foreigners were fucking everything up because of the way they turn up at A&E with colds and headaches.

I know that isn't really what your post was about but you could clearly see how much it was getting to her.

[El Kabong]

So the myth is? That it's no good?

From a patient perspective I disagree. The service I've had personally and witnessed on behalf of family members is and always has been fantastic.

Also, for what it's worth. For every 'Best health service in the World', there's a 'falling apart at the seams' to go with it.

Is immigration not a factor in that?

[brocktonblockbust]

NHS is piss. Health and safety laws are utter white. Everyone's an alcoholic, Chavs with their socks.rolled.up, the weather sucks and its too expensive.

Plus immigrants have ruined the country.

Oh and everyone.pretty much hates everyone: Welsh/Scottish hate English and.vice.versa.

Plus cricket sucks.

[Kirkland Laing]

A huge chunk of advanced countries' healthcare budgets go to treating diabetes and other obesity-related diseases. It's a problem for every healthcare system.

Privatising the NHS is not the answer. Contrary to popular belief, privately supplied healthcare is far more expensive than a single payer system, two or three times even.

But privatising the NHS is exactly what's going to happen and the public 's erroneous belief that privatised business is more efficient than government-run business will mean that the public eventually have to pay huge healthcare costs. We'll be like America where families are impoverished and bankrupted when they lose their healthcare due to losing their job or they reach lifetime limits on coverage or their continuing healthcare is denied or any of the myriad other reasons that make medical bills the overwhelming number one reason that Americans go bankrupt.

The government is going to keep on giving more and more parts of the system over to the private sector who will massively reduce coverage and treatments and take huge profits out of the system. Then eventually the government will say that despite all the privatisation of the system, costs have spiralled out of control and the only possible option is to now privatise the whole thing.

And whichever government gets elected, conservative or labour, the same privatisation thing happens. Here's an example of what happened the last time a Labour government was in power:

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...s-2012-m25-pfi

[Master]

NHS is a beautiful concept and we should continue to support, fund, and improve it. The fact that we are getting older is down largely to having a great system because of early intervention and prevention. NHS is truly world class in what it does.

However the NHS can improve and it does waste money. i believe 50% of its costs go on non-front line services like senior management, it could use the voluntary sector more and there are too many Trusts. There would be greater savings if they commissioned centrally.

Car park charges are a rip off.

The NHS rely on non-UK staff and without them it would be worse off. The nurse you met needs to get another job if she feels that way.

I think the Tories will run NHS to the ground and then privatise it.

Do not privatise it, they are not more efficient and effective. They waste as much money as the public sector but give it to their friends. I know as I work in one. It is horrible.