Anti-Trump nutcase kicked off flight for harassing Trump supporter

[TitoFan]

In Lyle's eyes they're all the same.

[denilson200]

So is Trump gonna build that wall ?

He has no idea what he's gotten himself in to.

There are unseens costs besides material and labor. My estimate puts it at approx 20.4 billion.

Here is just a few extra costs to factor.

1. Site prep/infrastructure.

There are hundreds of miles of remote land that will need access to a power grid. Power grids and transmission lines will have to be constructed to deliver power to construction sites.

Roads : Literally hundreds of miles of roads “truck ready” will have to be constructed in this remote areas to deliver materials to site.

Housing : Workers need housing. Some remote areas can be as much as 2 hours from hotels or a town big enough to support a large work force. Temp housing or busing will have to be provided.

2. Procurement

The amount of steel and rebar required for 1800 miles of wall would outstrip domestic sources if Buy America is enacted. Increase cost of overtime of steel mills and labor to meet demands would drive up scrap prices and considerably increase material cost.

3. Eminent Domain.

There is a lot of private land abutting the border that would have to be procured. Also easements for new transmission lines and roads would have to be obtained.

4. Soil Studies

Bore logs would have to be drilled along the length of the wall to test soil geology. Soil contents can vary greatly from place to place. Separate engineering studies would have to be done for each variance.

This is just a short list without getting long winded. But you get the idea

That is just for the construction phase keep in mind. Yearly maintenance on the wall will be on the order of 750 mil to 900 million a year.

Tunnels and urban excavation are a completely different animal and cost structure. An extensive amount of temporary shoring is required (Structural Steel) as well as bore machines which are assembled and disassembled on site can cost as much as 50 million a piece.

Good Luck Donald

[vidgil]

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He has no idea what he's gotten himself in to.

Yeah you know better than the real estate guy who has been involved in construction projects since before you were born.

You nnnnnnnnnnnniiiiiiiiiincompoop.

[brocktonblockbust]

Vudgil was really skating on thin ice with that nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnniiiiiiiiiiiiiiincompoop remark and should get a temporary ban @walrus what say you? Where the fuck does he get the gall to write that shit?

[walrus]

How dare that ZOG elitist

[brocktonblockbust]

Vidgil the Axe Murderer and shit

[El Kabong]

So is Trump gonna build that wall ?

He has no idea what he's gotten himself in to.

Ummm why the fuck do you care?

1. You don't live in America
2. You don't live in Mexico
3. You don't live in North America
4. You don't live in the Western Hemisphere

So you have an opinion on this that people should listen to because why?

[TitoFan]

Denilson, you're catching some hell on that... but it was still pretty well presented. Matter of fact even the numbers don't look too far off. Point remains it's still a MASSIVE undertaking and one that regardless of anyone's political affiliations, might be money very badly spent. With today's technology, there's plenty of ways to secure a border that don't necessarily include a fortress type wall along an almost 2,000-mile border. Leave that shit to the ancient Chinese, who by the way did a remarkable job at theirs.

[El Kabong]

Denilson, you're catching some hell on that... but it was still pretty well presented. Matter of fact even the numbers don't look too far off. Point remains it's still a MASSIVE undertaking and one that regardless of anyone's political affiliations, might be money very badly spent. With today's technology, there's plenty of ways to secure a border that don't necessarily include a fortress type wall along an almost 2,000-mile border. Leave that shit to the ancient Chinese, who by the way did a remarkable job at theirs.

I believe that even Trump has said that the Boarder wall won't necessarily be 1 continuous unbroken wall, it'll be a wall in places it'll be just a natural border in places due to Mother Nature. The wall is a piece of the puzzle. Illegal Immigrants need to be sent back from whence they came and this needs to be done in order for everyone to start out with a blank slate and be made aware of the rules. LAWS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS WILL BE ENFORCED.


Mexico is shitty because it's corrupt, the entire system is corrupt they have 0 excuses as to why their nation is not doing so hot or why their people are either wealthy as fuck or dirt fucking poor. Mexico needs yet another revolution and us just taking in these immigrants all willy nilly decreases the pressure on Mexico's shitty government and puts pressure on OUR government....it also changes the structure of the United States.


End the Reconquista, allow Mexico to have it out with themselves, and bring them to the table once the dust has settled and we can trade with a freer, more prosperous Mexico, with happier people.

[brocktonblockbust]

Beanz just couldn't make this shit up if he tried.

[Dark Lord Al]

So is Trump gonna build that wall ?

He has no idea what he's gotten himself in to.

There are unseens costs besides material and labor. My estimate puts it at approx 20.4 billion.

Here is just a few extra costs to factor.

1. Site prep/infrastructure.

There are hundreds of miles of remote land that will need access to a power grid. Power grids and transmission lines will have to be constructed to deliver power to construction sites.

Roads : Literally hundreds of miles of roads “truck ready” will have to be constructed in this remote areas to deliver materials to site.

Housing : Workers need housing. Some remote areas can be as much as 2 hours from hotels or a town big enough to support a large work force. Temp housing or busing will have to be provided.

2. Procurement

The amount of steel and rebar required for 1800 miles of wall would outstrip domestic sources if Buy America is enacted. Increase cost of overtime of steel mills and labor to meet demands would drive up scrap prices and considerably increase material cost.

3. Eminent Domain.

There is a lot of private land abutting the border that would have to be procured. Also easements for new transmission lines and roads would have to be obtained.

4. Soil Studies

Bore logs would have to be drilled along the length of the wall to test soil geology. Soil contents can vary greatly from place to place. Separate engineering studies would have to be done for each variance.

This is just a short list without getting long winded. But you get the idea

That is just for the construction phase keep in mind. Yearly maintenance on the wall will be on the order of 750 mil to 900 million a year.

Tunnels and urban excavation are a completely different animal and cost structure. An extensive amount of temporary shoring is required (Structural Steel) as well as bore machines which are assembled and disassembled on site can cost as much as 50 million a piece.

Good Luck Donald

I'm sure The Don has read your comments and has gained a lot from them . Did you write this whilst eating a bacon sandwich ?