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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather- Really was a great champion and fighter!

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    I'm not saying he isn't audacious I agreeand I'm not saying he is the GOAT. I agree
    What I'm saying is that he has every right to put himself forward.I agree Others will make their opinions of that. That's what I've done
    If you were in the top 2 p4p for nigh on 20 years and you were never beat, and you fought as many hall of famers as he did, don't you think you would be bigging yourself up?
    Btw. You still didn't answer the questions. Answer them and it'll all fall into place "numbnuts " 😉
    Did he fight them in their primes? Did he fight them at their best weights? Did Floyd beat the BEST versions of the fighters he fought.....Duran beat the best version of Ray Leonard, Ray Leonard beat the best version of Tommy Hearns, Ali-Frazier, Holyfield-Bowe, etc.

    Floyd is a great fighter and I've never said he wasn't talented, amazing talent, amazing skill. My issue is that he waited guys out....now more power to Floyd for being able to focus on the likes of Carlos Baldomir and not slipping up, but as a fan wouldn't it have been more impressive to beat Margarito at that point? Wouldn't it have been more impressive to beat an undefeated Cotto, and undefeated Paul Williams? Just saying Floyd had plenty of opportunity to make those things happen and he chose not to.


    You look at a guy like Rocky Marciano where there's not many top tier fighters in the division and there's no bouncing around weight classes to make a superfight happen...he fought everyone he beat everyone.


    You look at Floyd's resume and there are a couple more names you could have fit in there, there were a few fights which should have happened earlier, but it is what it is....great talent, but does he get to say "I'm the greatest, I'm the best!" and not actually be held to a standard? NO not in my view he doesn't....great fighter, greatest? Not by a longshot!

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather- Really was a great champion and fighter!

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    I'm not saying he isn't audacious I agreeand I'm not saying he is the GOAT. I agree
    What I'm saying is that he has every right to put himself forward.I agree Others will make their opinions of that. That's what I've done
    If you were in the top 2 p4p for nigh on 20 years and you were never beat, and you fought as many hall of famers as he did, don't you think you would be bigging yourself up?
    Btw. You still didn't answer the questions. Answer them and it'll all fall into place "numbnuts " ������
    Did he fight them in their primes? Did he fight them at their best weights? Did Floyd beat the BEST versions of the fighters he fought.....Duran beat the best version of Ray Leonard, Ray Leonard beat the best version of Tommy Hearns, Ali-Frazier, Holyfield-Bowe, etc.

    Floyd is a great fighter and I've never said he wasn't talented, amazing talent, amazing skill. My issue is that he waited guys out....now more power to Floyd for being able to focus on the likes of Carlos Baldomir and not slipping up, but as a fan wouldn't it have been more impressive to beat Margarito at that point? Wouldn't it have been more impressive to beat an undefeated Cotto, and undefeated Paul Williams? Just saying Floyd had plenty of opportunity to make those things happen and he chose not to.


    You look at a guy like Rocky Marciano where there's not many top tier fighters in the division and there's no bouncing around weight classes to make a superfight happen...he fought everyone he beat everyone.


    You look at Floyd's resume and there are a couple more names you could have fit in there, there were a few fights which should have happened earlier, but it is what it is....great talent, but does he get to say "I'm the greatest, I'm the best!" and not actually be held to a standard? NO not in my view he doesn't....great fighter, greatest? Not by a longshot!
    First of all, I don't necessarily disagree. I certainly don't think he was the greatest, but he has the right to put himself into consideration. Rightly or wrongly, he could turn around and say "yeah, but what have SRR,SRL,ALI, Louis all got in common? They all lost! Marciano never lost, but my record is better. I beat more champions in more weight divisions."
    Now Floyd is a prick as a guy although he has mellowed and grown up a little. But as a Boxer, there hasn't been anyone better in the last 25 years.

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