Quote Originally Posted by red fox View Post
Pascal and cloud were even more smaller then Tito standing at 5'10 to hopkins 6'2 with a 3 inch reach advantage. Pavlik was not good enough to beat an ATG. All three lost to Hopkins.
They were younger fighters they lost to the older fighter....all 3 of them. And Kelly Pavlik was undefeated at the time. But whatever, I'll just say "you're right" and leave it at that