Eubank Jnr v Renold Quinlan - ITV Box Office 4/2/17

[Master]

Eubank has just come out and claimed the GGG fight collapse was all Eddie Hearns fault and is adamant he'll get the Golovkin fight later this year

Eubank Jr. lays blame for Golovkin collapse, says ‘strong chance’ of resurrecting fight in 2017 | World Boxing News

How would he even know it was Hearns's fault? he wasn't allowed anywhere near the negotiations, He admitted as much himself.

His dad told him.

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You can only judge a fighter on his fights but it's not realistic to judge Jr on the Saunders fight the same as its not realistic to judge this Klitschko against the one that Purrity and Brewster beat and so many other examples.

Jr had only ever gone 8 rounds against mediocre opposition. He jumped in with the British, European and commonwealth champ who had done 12 a few times. That was a mistake. Jr needed to feel that distance before a title challenge or at least be tested against a hard old campaigner. To go from being an almost novice to giving Saunders his hardest fight and only losing on a split shows how good he could be. When he started turning it up Saunders couldn't cope and the ref kept him in the fight at one point in the last round I think.

Jrs fitness and stamina are unbelievable and he will give anyone a tough fight. He will give Golovkin more problems than he's ever had to face and I think would beat him. He just needs some serious fights. Beating up Chudinov, Osullivan and Blackwell isn't good enough but who else is there. Prepare him for Golovkin? No one that would be willing to risk their standing without getting big money I'd bet.

Ok, so which fights should we judge Jr. on? BJS is the best he has fought to date, and he blew it. on what basis can that possibly mean he is capable of beating GGG, undeniably the best guy in the division?
Hey, when they get in the ring , they all stand a punchers chance, that's the name of the game, but that's Jr.'s problem isn't it? he doesn't get in the ring with GGG. He had the chance and fucking blew it, whether that was down to him , his Dad , the Cat or whatever, the fact remains that he had his fucking chance and didn't take it.
The whole of the Boxing hierarchy is seeing this Eubank circus for what it is . Even ITV are taking the piss really. Yeah, we'll pay you peanuts, but you can have the PPV. at £10 - £12 a shot , he probably stands to make at least £50!!!

Who do you judge him on? We'll you can't because he still hasn't fought a top world class fighter yet but what you can see is a marked difference with the abandon on how many punches he throws since the Saunders fight. His very next fight just 3 months later against Chudinov his stamina was there on show in the last round when he reeled off that massive onslaught. He's not loading up on every shot and tiring himself, he's throwing the the intention to keep throwing.
Fighters who were supposed to give him a tough fight got absolutely battered. Osullivan got pulled out. Blackwell...

Hes doing what you would expect a world class fighter to do to lower level opposition, he's making them look like they don't belong in there with him.

If Murray were to fight Eubank Jr at middle I seriously doubt he lasts as long with Eubank as he did with Golovkin. Same goes for Brook.

[Primo Carnera]

You can only judge a fighter on his fights but it's not realistic to judge Jr on the Saunders fight the same as its not realistic to judge this Klitschko against the one that Purrity and Brewster beat and so many other examples.

Jr had only ever gone 8 rounds against mediocre opposition. He jumped in with the British, European and commonwealth champ who had done 12 a few times. That was a mistake. Jr needed to feel that distance before a title challenge or at least be tested against a hard old campaigner. To go from being an almost novice to giving Saunders his hardest fight and only losing on a split shows how good he could be. When he started turning it up Saunders couldn't cope and the ref kept him in the fight at one point in the last round I think.

Jrs fitness and stamina are unbelievable and he will give anyone a tough fight. He will give Golovkin more problems than he's ever had to face and I think would beat him. He just needs some serious fights. Beating up Chudinov, Osullivan and Blackwell isn't good enough but who else is there. Prepare him for Golovkin? No one that would be willing to risk their standing without getting big money I'd bet.

Ok, so which fights should we judge Jr. on? BJS is the best he has fought to date, and he blew it. on what basis can that possibly mean he is capable of beating GGG, undeniably the best guy in the division?
Hey, when they get in the ring , they all stand a punchers chance, that's the name of the game, but that's Jr.'s problem isn't it? he doesn't get in the ring with GGG. He had the chance and fucking blew it, whether that was down to him , his Dad , the Cat or whatever, the fact remains that he had his fucking chance and didn't take it.
The whole of the Boxing hierarchy is seeing this Eubank circus for what it is . Even ITV are taking the piss really. Yeah, we'll pay you peanuts, but you can have the PPV. at £10 - £12 a shot , he probably stands to make at least £50!!!

Who do you judge him on? We'll you can't because he still hasn't fought a top world class fighter yet but what you can see is a marked difference with the abandon on how many punches he throws since the Saunders fight. His very next fight just 3 months later against Chudinov his stamina was there on show in the last round when he reeled off that massive onslaught. He's not loading up on every shot and tiring himself, he's throwing the the intention to keep throwing.
Fighters who were supposed to give him a tough fight got absolutely battered. Osullivan got pulled out. Blackwell...

Hes doing what you would expect a world class fighter to do to lower level opposition, he's making them look like they don't belong in there with him.

If Murray were to fight Eubank Jr at middle I seriously doubt he lasts as long with Eubank as he did with Golovkin. Same goes for Brook.

I'd probably still fancy Murray against Eubank Jr. Despite the fact that I reckon Murray's best days are way behind him.
It's all conjecture, but I reckon Murray at his best was better than Eubank Jr. Has ever been. He certainly achieved more than Eubank Jr. Has to date. Obviously that may change, but Jr. is 28 now. 28! Not some up and coming kid.

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When you consider that around 9 Million ITV viewers will potentially be seeing this advertised during the Rugby on Saturday afternoon you realise how small Sky Sports are in comparison and what an brilliant opportunity Eubank Jnr has found himself in and what a massive platform he can keep fighting on if it sells well - It's on a plate for him really

Chris Eubank Jnr begins a new venture on Saturday night, in a new division, with ITV Box Office intent on making the young fighter a flagship name for its foray into pay-per-view sports programming.
Eubank meets IBO supermiddleweight champion Renold Quinlan, a little-known an Australian boxer.
Yet with Eubank, and the Eubank name, ITV Box Office have chosen well. Eubank and son resonate in boxing circles, and beyond. It is a name which the public associates with the sport. And with ITV broadcasting the Six Nations match between England and France live on Saturday afternoon, expected to draw around 9 million viewers, there will be teasers for the boxing extravaganza on its box office channel.
There is little concern that 'Eubank + Boxing' sells. Place them in a room, with opponents, and let the chemistry happen. On Thursday, Eubank Jnr, a quiet, menacing man, offered a withering assessment at a news conference from Olympia of future rivals Billy Joe Saunders and Gennady Golovkin.

Eubank said he would scorch both the UK No 1 middleweight - Saunders - the only man to defeat 27-year-old Eubank in his 24-fight career, and Golovkin, the world's No 1 in the division. Chris Eubank Snr, the former two-weight world champion, looked on serenely.
What ITV are doing - with pound for pound modern great Andre Ward and once great undisputed heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis providing ringside analysis - looks intriguing and by dipping their toes into the box office market, it has created another potentially lucrative outlet for the bigger names in boxing.
Thursday gave the platform for Eubank Jnr and his father to expound their next few years. Although Junior stressed he is not overlooking Quinlan, his heart is set on another fight with WBO middleweight champion Saunders, and the Kazakh Golovkin.
"Saunders, I'm never, ever going to get past that fight, I'm never going to have him out of mind, until I right that wrong," said Eubank Jnr. "He has a win over me; I need to even the score."
The contest on Saturday night is Eubank Jnr's first fight at super middleweight. He admitted to being comfortable with the extra eight pounds. His father, worth recalling, went from middleweight to cruiserweight by the end of his career.
"After this victory, I'm coming for everybody. Saunders, James DeGale. I want the rest of those teeth, I've told everybody I'm going to put DeGale's teeth on my mantelpiece," he said.
"Then there's Gennady Golovkin. He is viewed by some of you guys as one of the best in the world. I don't see it. I can see holes in him. I've got a nice little plan for that man Golovkin."
Eubank Snr told The Telegraph: "We have no fear of these opponents. We are serious. Even Andre Ward who is here, working for ITV Box Office. I do not fear these fighters for my son. ITV have been very wise to see us, to become involved with us. It has created an opportunity for us to steer our own path, to create fights which the fans want to see, the biggest fights."
Also on the card are the heavyweight David Price, who faces Christian Hammer, and flyweight Andrew Selby who meets Ardin Diale for the WBC international crown. But the 3000 fans will be at Olympia for team Eubank. The father and son who refuse to be denied.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2017/02/02/itv-hope-chris-eubank-name-will-fuel-popularity-new-boxing-venture/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/20...oxing-venture/

[nuggetdotcom]

I think he will get, and maybe win, a GGG fight. And it may well be negotiated outside the Hearn/Warren empire

[superheavyrhun]

Can't believe this is a sticky, they'll give a sticky to any ole' fight these days. In fact, any ole' guy can get a world title shot. In my day, Frank Warren had to pay some eastern European dude to lie down for a title. #graft

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Given the amount of views and posts this thread has received why shouldn't it be?
It's by far the busiest current thread on the forum so people obviously have an interest in Eubank Jnr.

[Master]

Superheavy is obviously joking.

The whole card is good and far better value for money than what sky are offering. In fact this card embarrasses them.

[erics44]

its a good card, im looking forward to all of the fights

I'm not sure it embarrasses sky tho, they have put on some good cards themselves recently

well have to wait to see how the fights go first too, they might all end up shit

[superheavyrhun]

Given the amount of views and posts this thread has received why shouldn't it be?
It's by far the busiest current thread on the forum so people obviously have an interest in Eubank Jnr.

Sorry mate, Master's right. I was trying to be humourous. I shall try to signpost it better next time.

[Master]

Given the amount of views and posts this thread has received why shouldn't it be?
It's by far the busiest current thread on the forum so people obviously have an interest in Eubank Jnr.

Sorry mate, Master's right. I was trying to be humourous. I shall try to signpost it better next time.

Smileys help, I have been bitten at work with my emails which have been taken the wrong way.

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It's more than that though, the bottom line is that if Eubank Jnr can (like him and his dad claim they will do) secure genuine PPV fights that he's challenging for proper world titles in, the world's his oyster if he can put his money where his mouth is and win them.
ITV is a huge platform to be fighting on but he needs to look devastating on Saturday night to get people talking and get the ball rolling.
Being honest here if i was young Eubank and knew my punches were hurting him and was confident i could walk through his i'd carry the fight a few more rounds than i had to and systematically punish Quinlan over more rounds than i really needed to and sell myself more to the average man in the street type of fans.
Basically a 1st round KO win is gonna 50% impress but also 50% get the hardcore fans jumping all over the missmatch bus.

I'm actually looking forward to this not just for the decent looking card but also because of the pressure it puts on Sky, BT and Boxnation to up their game should it prove a success.

Throw the David Haye/Richard Schaefer - "Hayemaker Ringstar" newbies into the mix and it surely leaves the UK fight scene in it's best EVER position.

It's all looking rather good and British Boxing is rocking at the moment

[Master]

its a good card, im looking forward to all of the fights

I'm not sure it embarrasses sky tho, they have put on some good cards themselves recently

well have to wait to see how the fights go first too, they might all end up shit

Does not matter if they end up rubbish fights, the point is we all knew GGG v Brook was a mis match and Haye v Bellew will be the same. Have a word with yourself and your love of all things Sky.

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It's more than that though, the bottom line is that if Eubank Jnr can (like him and his dad claim they will do) secure genuine PPV fights that he's challenging for proper world titles in, the world's his oyster if he can put his money where his mouth is and win them.
ITV is a huge platform to be fighting on but he needs to look devastating on Saturday night to get people talking and get the ball rolling.
Being honest here if i was young Eubank and knew my punches were hurting him and was confident i could walk through his i'd carry the fight a few more rounds than i had to and systematically punish Quinlan over more rounds than i really needed to and sell myself more to the average man in the street type of fans.
Basically a 1st round KO win is gonna 50% impress but also 50% get the hardcore fans jumping all over the missmatch bus.

I'm actually looking forward to this not just for the decent looking card but also because of the pressure it puts on Sky, BT and Boxnation to up their game should it prove a success.

Throw the David Haye/Richard Schaefer - "Hayemaker Ringstar" newbies into the mix and it surely leaves the UK fight scene in it's best EVER position.

It's all looking rather good and British Boxing is rocking at the moment

I don't think he will blow him away early but I also do think he will go for it. He's like a shark now that wants blood.

I think Quinlan will be there till late. Might get pulled out. He's going to be the naturally strongest opponent Jr has faced. Will be a good show case for Jr to show off that work rate and exciting combinations with a small chance of a slip up if Quinlan catches him flush.

How do we see the Price v Hammer fight going? Could be the end of Prices career.....

[erics44]

its a good card, im looking forward to all of the fights

I'm not sure it embarrasses sky tho, they have put on some good cards themselves recently

well have to wait to see how the fights go first too, they might all end up shit

Does not matter if they end up rubbish fights, the point is we all knew GGG v Brook was a mis match and Haye v Bellew will be the same. Have a word with yourself and your love of all things Sky.

i'm not arsed what channel shit is on