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    Default Re: David Price..be Positive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    He might have been better off if Thompson and Teper had been clean. Them being filthy drug cheats kinda wiped the slate clean for him and possibly removed the need for him to have a good look in the mirror and face up to his shortcomings.

    Price was bordering on cocky about it. They cheated, doesnt count, didnt happen. I killed Joshua in sparring.
    Thompson was taking a diuretic, which I understand is cheating but i'm not sure the advantage it would give him, the result should have been overturned, i'm not sure it would have been any different

    Teper was taking peds, im sure I heard steve bunce say it was one of the worst failures, which I took to mean he had a lot more PEDs in his system than the vast majority who fail drugs tests, a clear drugs cheat, I would argue that that result could well have been very different
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    He might have been better off if Thompson and Teper had been clean. Them being filthy drug cheats kinda wiped the slate clean for him and possibly removed the need for him to have a good look in the mirror and face up to his shortcomings.

    Price was bordering on cocky about it. They cheated, doesnt count, didnt happen. I killed Joshua in sparring.
    Thompson was taking a diuretic, which I understand is cheating but i'm not sure the advantage it would give him, the result should have been overturned, i'm not sure it would have been any different

    Teper was taking peds, im sure I heard steve bunce say it was one of the worst failures, which I took to mean he had a lot more PEDs in his system than the vast majority who fail drugs tests, a clear drugs cheat, I would argue that that result could well have been very different
    Teper was taking everything he could get his hands on, anything he couldnt take himself he was selling. He at least was committed to his cheating.

    Thompson was taking a known masking agent. He says it was for a heart condition but refused/couldnt be bothered to provide any proof.

    Its immaterial to be honest. Whether they had a physical edge because of it or not, Price's demeanor for me was one of absolution. He hadnt done anything wrong, it was them cunt cheats. Whilst he's not wrong, there were clearly issues that needed addressing on his part and I think them failing tests and him in a way being given a free pass (getting his ranking back) might have just masked over the situation a bit.
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    The Price who lost to Hammer looked light-years more lumbering than the one who got KO'ed by Teper. Don't know if it was the extra weight or what. But against Hammer, David's left looked totally useless and inviting for right hand shots. He holds it too low, and waves it around with no purpose whatsoever. He also gassed horribly. Would've been interesting to see what would've happened had the knockdown of Hammer occurred earlier in the round. Obviously, he gets crushed by either Wilder or AJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    The Price who lost to Hammer looked light-years more lumbering than the one who got KO'ed by Teper. Don't know if it was the extra weight or what. But against Hammer, David's left looked totally useless and inviting for right hand shots. He holds it too low, and waves it around with no purpose whatsoever. He also gassed horribly. Would've been interesting to see what would've happened had the knockdown of Hammer occurred earlier in the round. Obviously, he gets crushed by either Wilder or AJ.
    This was why AJ opted for someone other than Price because he wanted someone durable who would go some rounds with him.
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    Default Re: David Price..be Positive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    He might have been better off if Thompson and Teper had been clean. Them being filthy drug cheats kinda wiped the slate clean for him and possibly removed the need for him to have a good look in the mirror and face up to his shortcomings.

    Price was bordering on cocky about it. They cheated, doesnt count, didnt happen. I killed Joshua in sparring.
    Thompson was taking a diuretic, which I understand is cheating but i'm not sure the advantage it would give him, the result should have been overturned, i'm not sure it would have been any different

    Teper was taking peds, im sure I heard steve bunce say it was one of the worst failures, which I took to mean he had a lot more PEDs in his system than the vast majority who fail drugs tests, a clear drugs cheat, I would argue that that result could well have been very different
    Teper was taking everything he could get his hands on, anything he couldnt take himself he was selling. He at least was committed to his cheating.

    Thompson was taking a known masking agent. He says it was for a heart condition but refused/couldnt be bothered to provide any proof.

    Its immaterial to be honest. Whether they had a physical edge because of it or not, Price's demeanor for me was one of absolution. He hadnt done anything wrong, it was them cunt cheats. Whilst he's not wrong, there were clearly issues that needed addressing on his part and I think them failing tests and him in a way being given a free pass (getting his ranking back) might have just masked over the situation a bit.
    its not really immaterial

    teper, drugged up to the eyeballs beat price

    and a number of other fighters

    would he have even been in a position to fight price? I doubt it, and I don't think you can say he would have won anyway
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    Default Re: David Price..be Positive.

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
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    He might have been better off if Thompson and Teper had been clean. Them being filthy drug cheats kinda wiped the slate clean for him and possibly removed the need for him to have a good look in the mirror and face up to his shortcomings.

    Price was bordering on cocky about it. They cheated, doesnt count, didnt happen. I killed Joshua in sparring.
    Thompson was taking a diuretic, which I understand is cheating but i'm not sure the advantage it would give him, the result should have been overturned, i'm not sure it would have been any different

    Teper was taking peds, im sure I heard steve bunce say it was one of the worst failures, which I took to mean he had a lot more PEDs in his system than the vast majority who fail drugs tests, a clear drugs cheat, I would argue that that result could well have been very different
    Teper was taking everything he could get his hands on, anything he couldnt take himself he was selling. He at least was committed to his cheating.

    Thompson was taking a known masking agent. He says it was for a heart condition but refused/couldnt be bothered to provide any proof.

    Its immaterial to be honest. Whether they had a physical edge because of it or not, Price's demeanor for me was one of absolution. He hadnt done anything wrong, it was them cunt cheats. Whilst he's not wrong, there were clearly issues that needed addressing on his part and I think them failing tests and him in a way being given a free pass (getting his ranking back) might have just masked over the situation a bit.
    its not really immaterial

    teper, drugged up to the eyeballs beat price

    and a number of other fighters

    would he have even been in a position to fight price? I doubt it, and I don't think you can say he would have won anyway
    It's immaterial in the sense that whether Teper was a Drugs cheat or not, it doesn't help Price much. it doesn't matter whether he would've beat or lost to Teper.
    if we're saying it's affected him mentally , then perhaps he hasn't got the mental strength to succeed at the highest level.
    basically, it's not about anyone else, it's about him.

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    Default Re: David Price..be Positive.

    yeah its all ifs and buts and what ever has happened would have probably happened at some point anyway

    but trying to defend the big man

    had Thompson not have been on peds the first time the could he have landed that punch? would he have got up the second time?

    had Teper not been a serious drug cheat, would that fight have even ever have happened?

    and I know blaming the trainer is a bit lame, but I though coldwells advice was shocking at times on Saturday, and I was thinking this well before the 6th and 7th when it was clear he was gonna lose, was it a bad choice of trainer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    yeah its all ifs and buts and what ever has happened would have probably happened at some point anyway

    but trying to defend the big man

    had Thompson not have been on peds the first time the could he have landed that punch? would he have got up the second time?

    had Teper not been a serious drug cheat, would that fight have even ever have happened?

    and I know blaming the trainer is a bit lame, but I though coldwells advice was shocking at times on Saturday, and I was thinking this well before the 6th and 7th when it was clear he was gonna lose, was it a bad choice of trainer?
    I don't dislike Price as a bloke, but forget about the "ifs" and "buts". All we've learnt in the last couple of years is that it was gonna happen at some stage anyway regardless of peds and bullshit.

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    Default Re: David Price..be Positive.

    David Price should be positive , lets face it most of the guys who have beaten him have be positive , but that is usually for drugs.

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