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    Reagan.

    Government grew massively under Reagan. 60 000 new federal employees, an enitire new department created.

    Tripled the deficit, tripled the national debt.

    Raised taxes twelve separate times, including the biggest tax increase in Americanhistory. This was to make up revenue for his huge tax cuts for top earners. The tax increases all fell on low/middle incomes, starting the huge shift the unequal underperforming economy we have today.

    Gave amnesty to seven million illegal immigrants.

    Deliberately weakened the dollar. Actually created a policy to weaken the currency.

    Ran away from radical Islamic terrorism. When a suicide bomber killed 241 US Marines in Beirut Reagan ordered the Marines to sound the retreat and leave immediately.

    Appointed two Supreme Court judges who upheld Roe versus Wade.

    Traded arms to Iran for hostages, then lied about it to the American people, then got caught and had to admit it.

    Vetoed international sanctions on apartheid-era South Africa.

    Funded the rebels in Afghanistan who became the Taliban and Al Quaeda.

    I could go on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Reagan.

    Government grew massively under Reagan. 60 000 new federal employees, an enitire new department created.

    Tripled the deficit, tripled the national debt.

    Raised taxes twelve separate times, including the biggest tax increase in Americanhistory. This was to make up revenue for his huge tax cuts for top earners. The tax increases all fell on low/middle incomes, starting the huge shift the unequal underperforming economy we have today.

    Gave amnesty to seven million illegal immigrants.

    Deliberately weakened the dollar. Actually created a policy to weaken the currency.

    Ran away from radical Islamic terrorism. When a suicide bomber killed 241 US Marines in Beirut Reagan ordered the Marines to sound the retreat and leave immediately.

    Appointed two Supreme Court judges who upheld Roe versus Wade.

    Traded arms to Iran for hostages, then lied about it to the American people, then got caught and had to admit it.

    Vetoed international sanctions on apartheid-era South Africa.

    Funded the rebels in Afghanistan who became the Taliban and Al Quaeda.

    I could go on.
    Please do


    Also per your "B-b-b-but he increased the national debt" the Democrats had Congress and therefore the power of the purse, but I mean far be it from ME to tell YOU about how the American political system works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Reagan.

    Government grew massively under Reagan. 60 000 new federal employees, an enitire new department created.

    Tripled the deficit, tripled the national debt.

    Raised taxes twelve separate times, including the biggest tax increase in Americanhistory. This was to make up revenue for his huge tax cuts for top earners. The tax increases all fell on low/middle incomes, starting the huge shift the unequal underperforming economy we have today.

    Gave amnesty to seven million illegal immigrants.

    Deliberately weakened the dollar. Actually created a policy to weaken the currency.

    Ran away from radical Islamic terrorism. When a suicide bomber killed 241 US Marines in Beirut Reagan ordered the Marines to sound the retreat and leave immediately.

    Appointed two Supreme Court judges who upheld Roe versus Wade.

    Traded arms to Iran for hostages, then lied about it to the American people, then got caught and had to admit it.

    Vetoed international sanctions on apartheid-era South Africa.

    Funded the rebels in Afghanistan who became the Taliban and Al Quaeda.

    I could go on.
    Please do


    Also per your "B-b-b-but he increased the national debt" the Democrats had Congress and therefore the power of the purse, but I mean far be it from ME to tell YOU about how the American political system works.
    In which case the GOP are responsible for all the spending under Obama.

    Reagan's administration proposed all the budgets, including creation of an entirely new government department. The administration draws up the yearly budget and sends it to congress. Congress add on their own earmark spending and then pass it. That's how the political system works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    In which case the GOP are responsible for all the spending under Obama.

    Reagan's administration proposed all the budgets, including creation of an entirely new government department. The administration draws up the yearly budget and sends it to congress. Congress add on their own earmark spending and then pass it. That's how the political system works.
    A lot of it, yes....all of it? No. Let's not forget Obama's Democrat Majority Congress for his first 2 years as President.

    The Real Obama Liberal Legacy: Budgets that Never Balance | Speaker.gov


    ...but Speaker Ryan is guilty as well of spending more than we needed to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    In which case the GOP are responsible for all the spending under Obama.

    Reagan's administration proposed all the budgets, including creation of an entirely new government department. The administration draws up the yearly budget and sends it to congress. Congress add on their own earmark spending and then pass it. That's how the political system works.
    A lot of it, yes....all of it? No. Let's not forget Obama's Democrat Majority Congress for his first 2 years as President.

    The Real Obama Liberal Legacy: Budgets that Never Balance | Speaker.gov


    ...but Speaker Ryan is guilty as well of spending more than we needed to.
    The deficits in Obama's first two years weren't down to Obama spending money, they were down to the collapse in government income due to the economic collapse of 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    In which case the GOP are responsible for all the spending under Obama.

    Reagan's administration proposed all the budgets, including creation of an entirely new government department. The administration draws up the yearly budget and sends it to congress. Congress add on their own earmark spending and then pass it. That's how the political system works.
    A lot of it, yes....all of it? No. Let's not forget Obama's Democrat Majority Congress for his first 2 years as President.

    The Real Obama Liberal Legacy: Budgets that Never Balance | Speaker.gov


    ...but Speaker Ryan is guilty as well of spending more than we needed to.
    The deficits in Obama's first two years weren't down to Obama spending money, they were down to the collapse in government income due to the economic collapse of 2008.
    Ah yes, we mustn't blame Obama for anything ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    In which case the GOP are responsible for all the spending under Obama.

    Reagan's administration proposed all the budgets, including creation of an entirely new government department. The administration draws up the yearly budget and sends it to congress. Congress add on their own earmark spending and then pass it. That's how the political system works.
    A lot of it, yes....all of it? No. Let's not forget Obama's Democrat Majority Congress for his first 2 years as President.

    The Real Obama Liberal Legacy: Budgets that Never Balance | Speaker.gov


    ...but Speaker Ryan is guilty as well of spending more than we needed to.
    The deficits in Obama's first two years weren't down to Obama spending money, they were down to the collapse in government income due to the economic collapse of 2008.
    Ah yes, we mustn't blame Obama for anything ever

    I'm happy to blame Obaba for things he should have done. No crackdown/prosecitions on Wall Street, allowing massive mergers/less competition and so on. Of course Trump has done even worse than Obama in both these respects, even saying he;s going to scrap what little financial regulation Obamam enacted.

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