Thurman would have KO'd Floyd and Floyd knows that

[Ron Swanson]

I don't think the OP watches boxing. If he does he certainly doesn't understand it. Thurman coming on, he has never come on in his career. He's a 3 round fighter. If he doesn't have complete control by then he runs because he can't think.

[Master]

The OP is going through a crisis and should be ignored.

[mikeeod]

Prime Floyd stops both Garcia and Thurman, unless Keith goes into survival mode early and limps to the final bell. Floyd was too fast and gifted for both, and on another level in terms of boxing I.Q. and skills/technique. These were good, solid, young fighters, but neither are particularly spectacular and both have GLARING flaws. I applaud them for fighting each other and risking their belts/undefeated status, but this fight was nowhere near the level of skill and competition displayed in Leonard vs Hearns, or Oscar vs Tito (or Whitaker vs Oscar/Chavez, Oscar vs Mosely...etc.).

I'm hoping that Spence proves to be the real thing (he has to get by Brook to prove it), and that Crawford can grow into the weight class for a superfight. If I see anyone who has a chance to beat a prime Floyd at this time, Spence is the only one, and that is a stretch based off how he has looked against inferior competition (he may still prove to be a hype job, although I doubt that he is/will). I don't see Thurman beating any version of Floyd.

[Master]

Floyd would never stop a top welterweight because he does not punch that hard and if he wins it would be on points.

A ring rusty Floyd v Thurman now would be interesting challenge for the money man.

[mikeeod]

Floyd would never stop a top welterweight because he does not punch that hard and if he wins it would be on points.

A ring rusty Floyd v Thurman now would be interesting challenge for the money man.

I see your point, but will have to disagree with you (respectfully, of course!). Garcia, in my opinion, is really a 140 pounder who is MUCH slower than a prime Floyd. That fight would resemble Gatti vs. Floyd, where Floyd would start cautiously due to Danny's power, and then as he became frustrated/tired, Floyd would pick up the pace and start landing multi punch combos for the stoppage.

Thurman is a good/full sized Welter, but he consistently wilts late in fights and I don't see him as durable as the welters Floyd couldn't stop (Mosely, Baldy...etc.). As I said in the original post, if Keith goes into survival mode early he goes the distance (still struggles to hear the final bell like Judah/Mosely), but if he presses for the win, I see Floyd picking him apart for the late stoppage. I just feel Floyd was on a completely different level than both of those guys.

[Master]

Floyd would never stop a top welterweight because he does not punch that hard and if he wins it would be on points.

A ring rusty Floyd v Thurman now would be interesting challenge for the money man.

I see your point, but will have to disagree with you (respectfully, of course!). Garcia, in my opinion, is really a 140 pounder who is MUCH slower than a prime Floyd. That fight would resemble Gatti vs. Floyd, where Floyd would start cautiously due to Danny's power, and then as he became frustrated/tired, Floyd would pick up the pace and start landing multi punch combos for the stoppage.

Thurman is a good/full sized Welter, but he consistently wilts late in fights and I don't see him as durable as the welters Floyd couldn't stop (Mosely, Baldy...etc.). As I said in the original post, if Keith goes into survival mode early he goes the distance (still struggles to hear the final bell like Judah/Mosely), but if he presses for the win, I see Floyd picking him apart for the late stoppage. I just feel Floyd was on a completely different level than both of those guys.

True, Floyd was on a different level to Thurman and Garcia, who could still improve, but both are naturally bigger men than Floyd and just can not see Mayweather stop them.

Garcia and Thurman showed good chins Saturday evening and if old Shane and limited Baldy can see 12 rounds against Floyd then so could these two.

I know I am nit picking but do not want people to think Floyd was a stoppage artist at the weight. At the lower weights yes he was but not at welterweight.

I could not see Floyd do a "Gatti" on Garcia. Danny is a far better fighter with better boxing fundamentals.

[vidgil]

The OP is going through a crisis and should be ignored.

I apologise for starting this silly thread.

I think I do need to take my pills.

[Primo Carnera]

How desperate are we to see Floyd get beat that we are talking him out of retirement at 40 years old to fight a guy who is arguably the best in the division in his prime . and you know what, Floyd beats him , even at 40, winning nearly every round.
LET IT GO FFS!!! Floyd is retired and he ain't coming back. Let some of these guys earn the right to be "The Man" off their own back rather than riding on the back of the PBF Bandwagon.

[Master]

How desperate are we to see Floyd get beat that we are talking him out of retirement at 40 years old to fight a guy who is arguably the best in the division in his prime . and you know what, Floyd beats him , even at 40, winning nearly every round.
LET IT GO FFS!!! Floyd is retired and he ain't coming back. Let some of these guys earn the right to be "The Man" off their own back rather than riding on the back of the PBF Bandwagon.

I do not think 40 year old Floyd beats a Thurman.

[Primo Carnera]

How desperate are we to see Floyd get beat that we are talking him out of retirement at 40 years old to fight a guy who is arguably the best in the division in his prime . and you know what, Floyd beats him , even at 40, winning nearly every round.
LET IT GO FFS!!! Floyd is retired and he ain't coming back. Let some of these guys earn the right to be "The Man" off their own back rather than riding on the back of the PBF Bandwagon.

I do not think 40 year old Floyd beats a Thurman.

I do. But as you know, we will never know. 😉

[Master]

How desperate are we to see Floyd get beat that we are talking him out of retirement at 40 years old to fight a guy who is arguably the best in the division in his prime . and you know what, Floyd beats him , even at 40, winning nearly every round.
LET IT GO FFS!!! Floyd is retired and he ain't coming back. Let some of these guys earn the right to be "The Man" off their own back rather than riding on the back of the PBF Bandwagon.

I do not think 40 year old Floyd beats a Thurman.

I do. But as you know, we will never know. 😉

Yes because he is fighting the easiest guy he can get Mcgregor