Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd

[Gandalf]

Did you not actually watch the fight? Every right hand he threw required his weight being pushed off his right foot. It's hard to describe to those that havent boxed competitively and you can all try and give me shit for saying that but unless you've tried to throw right hands in a bout you won't know how it feels to go through the mechanics. Maybe someone else who's boxed could comment? But in my opinion which is based on experience and the fact Haye wouldn't have had the use of his right calfs there is no way he could have balance to punch let alone push off with force to throw a right hand.

People can do all kinds of things with a serious injury. My wife had a similar injury to what Haye had. I told her to go to the hospital and sort it out, but she thought she knew better and limped around for a few days, went to work, and tried to continue as normal. Ended up needing a pretty big operation to fix it up. Just an ordinary person. Someone like Haye, an athlete, buzzing on adrenaline and in the midst of a fight would have been able to do what he did. He did it and the evidence is out there showing the injury was genuine. You sound like a plonker talking like you are here. 'You guys don't know boxing blah, blah, blah'. Plenty of us have been around people who have had similar injuries and seen exactly what they can or can't do. Haye was throwing punches, but he wasn't generating the same kind of leverage at all. I'm not sure he was 100% to begin with.

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Did you not actually watch the fight? Every right hand he threw required his weight being pushed off his right foot. It's hard to describe to those that havent boxed competitively and you can all try and give me shit for saying that but unless you've tried to throw right hands in a bout you won't know how it feels to go through the mechanics. Maybe someone else who's boxed could comment? But in my opinion which is based on experience and the fact Haye wouldn't have had the use of his right calfs there is no way he could have balance to punch let alone push off with force to throw a right hand.

People can do all kinds of things with a serious injury. My wife had a similar injury to what Haye had. I told her to go to the hospital and sort it out, but she thought she knew better and limped around for a few days, went to work, and tried to continue as normal. Ended up needing a pretty big operation to fix it up. Just an ordinary person. Someone like Haye, an athlete, buzzing on adrenaline and in the midst of a fight would have been able to do what he did. He did it and the evidence is out there showing the injury was genuine. You sound like a plonker talking like you are here. 'You guys don't know boxing blah, blah, blah'. Plenty of us have been around people who have had similar injuries and seen exactly what they can or can't do. Haye was throwing punches, but he wasn't generating the same kind of leverage at all. I'm not sure he was 100% to begin with.

Jesus Christ... Do you not understand the mechanics of the Achilles? It attaches the calf to the foot. It attaches one end to the skeleton. Without that the calf muscle is only attached one end and not functioning. Yes someone could hobble around but your trying to say what you your wife does at work is akin to boxing? She's throwing her weight round on either foot trying to punch someone in the head? Give over... Some just like to argue here for the sake of it. Also, this photo evidence, take another look and where in that photo does it prove its Haye? The girl who posted it on Twitter was called out on it as in where did that photo come from because she never even said where she got it from. Doesn't even actually say it's from or of Haye, so technically she's not lying and she is where that picture originated from. Haye was also asked and he never responded either. Some people are so gullible. The week leading up to the fight Haye goes out of his way to have a photo in Munich with a surgeon, why not here? If your going to have a photo taken of your surgery to prove it happened why not get your face in the pic, anything other than just a random none identifyable pic of surgery. Why not a statement from the surgeon? Nothing... Put him on Jeremy Kyle with a lie detector

[Gandalf]

Did you not actually watch the fight? Every right hand he threw required his weight being pushed off his right foot. It's hard to describe to those that havent boxed competitively and you can all try and give me shit for saying that but unless you've tried to throw right hands in a bout you won't know how it feels to go through the mechanics. Maybe someone else who's boxed could comment? But in my opinion which is based on experience and the fact Haye wouldn't have had the use of his right calfs there is no way he could have balance to punch let alone push off with force to throw a right hand.

People can do all kinds of things with a serious injury. My wife had a similar injury to what Haye had. I told her to go to the hospital and sort it out, but she thought she knew better and limped around for a few days, went to work, and tried to continue as normal. Ended up needing a pretty big operation to fix it up. Just an ordinary person. Someone like Haye, an athlete, buzzing on adrenaline and in the midst of a fight would have been able to do what he did. He did it and the evidence is out there showing the injury was genuine. You sound like a plonker talking like you are here. 'You guys don't know boxing blah, blah, blah'. Plenty of us have been around people who have had similar injuries and seen exactly what they can or can't do. Haye was throwing punches, but he wasn't generating the same kind of leverage at all. I'm not sure he was 100% to begin with.

Jesus Christ... Do you not understand the mechanics of the Achilles? It attaches the calf to the foot. It attaches one end to the skeleton. Without that the calf muscle is only attached one end and not functioning. Yes someone could hobble around but your trying to say what you your wife does at work is akin to boxing? She's throwing her weight round on either foot trying to punch someone in the head? Give over... Some just like to argue here for the sake of it. Also, this photo evidence, take another look and where in that photo does it prove its Haye? The girl who posted it on Twitter was called out on it as in where did that photo come from because she never even said where she got it from. Doesn't even actually say it's from or of Haye, so technically she's not lying and she is where that picture originated from. Haye was also asked and he never responded either. Some people are so gullible. The week leading up to the fight Haye goes out of his way to have a photo in Munich with a surgeon, why not here? If your going to have a photo taken of your surgery to prove it happened why not get your face in the pic, anything other than just a random none identifyable pic of surgery. Why not a statement from the surgeon? Nothing... Put him on Jeremy Kyle with a lie detector

Maybe my memory is failing me, but she was hobbling around pretty well and refused to go to hospital thinking it would heal. I told her she was bonkers and to get it checked pronto. Turned out I was right, it was pretty serious. You can walk around for days with such an injury and be an ordinary person. David Haye by contrast is clearly an athlete and a man that in the heat of battle felt he would land a lucky punch and weather it for 20 minutes. That he was standing upright and winging punches with no proper leverage is perfectly feasible.

You have taken to this conspiracy lark every single time so your credibility is wearing thin. You can see in the fight exactly where it tears, you can't act that Ross. Haye was not out of breath, he has injured and it seems only you cannot see it. People have provided evidence, they have cited examples, they have shown anectdotal evidence, but you won't see any of it. That's your call, but you look a bit silly on this one.