AJ-Wlad - Wembley

[Mark TKO]

Although I think Master is a moron he's right we don't know how good AJ is.

I just hope Wlad has something left and we actually find out.


Like others have said I'm really trying to like AJ but not warned to him yet - he's certainly not in the Khan or Audley bracket though.

With a gun to my head and having to put my house on it I would say.......AJ round 3

[Primo Carnera]

I am a little surprised at how many either don't like AJ or would want to dislike him.
Maybe it's because of Eddie Hearn, or maybe because he's champ but we don't know how good he is.
I know he's not proved much yet, but I don't think that's his fault.
I would've thought the Brits would be all over him. After all, what's not to like?

[Mark TKO]

And the answer is I don't know but I don't dislike him.


It maybe that I'll never get behind a fighter again like I did Benn and Lewis back in the day.

Maybe it's because they're all multi millionaires after a handful of fights these days without proving their pedigree.

I hate the modern footballer too

But admittedly it's not their fault.

AJ win and then Bellew will blow him out inside of two rounds at Goodison Park

[Primo Carnera]

And the answer is I don't know but I don't dislike him.


It maybe that I'll never get behind a fighter again like I did Benn and Lewis back in the day.

Maybe it's because they're all multi millionaires after a handful of fights these days without proving their pedigree.

I hate the modern footballer too

But admittedly it's not their fault.

AJ win and then Bellew will blow him out inside of two rounds at Goodison Park

I know what you mean about being multi millionaires without proving themselves or even being any good. That's why I can't take to the likes of Eubank Jr. BJS, Khan etc.
I personally don't put AJ in their bracket, but each to their own. It just surprises me.

[Batman]

I think that for me at least the media machine played a big part in it.
When sky try to force me to like someone often the opposite happens

[erics44]

And the answer is I don't know but I don't dislike him.


It maybe that I'll never get behind a fighter again like I did Benn and Lewis back in the day.

Maybe it's because they're all multi millionaires after a handful of fights these days without proving their pedigree.

I hate the modern footballer too

But admittedly it's not their fault.

AJ win and then Bellew will blow him out inside of two rounds at Goodison Park

I know what you mean about being multi millionaires without proving themselves or even being any good. That's why I can't take to the likes of Eubank Jr. BJS, Khan etc.
I personally don't put AJ in their bracket, but each to their own. It just surprises me.

they deserve the money don't they?

Think of the stress they go through with the media and the press conferences and selling the fight and the fame and all that

most people get stressed a bit of a disagreement at work, or a fall out on an internet forum

and the training doesn't get any tougher, and then they risk their lives in the ring

[Beanz]

And the answer is I don't know but I don't dislike him.


It maybe that I'll never get behind a fighter again like I did Benn and Lewis back in the day.

Maybe it's because they're all multi millionaires after a handful of fights these days without proving their pedigree.

I hate the modern footballer too

But admittedly it's not their fault.

AJ win and then Bellew will blow him out inside of two rounds at Goodison Park

I know what you mean about being multi millionaires without proving themselves or even being any good. That's why I can't take to the likes of Eubank Jr. BJS, Khan etc.
I personally don't put AJ in their bracket, but each to their own. It just surprises me.

I too would not put AJ in their bracket yet either. Khan has faced a lot sterner opposition than AJ and whilst he has frittered away the tail end of his career he fought his way to where he is love him or hate him. BJS again whilst not really having the portfolio he should have is a very gifted boxer, way more in his arsenal than AJ will probably ever have and that's not knocking Joshua it's just a fact. I don't really get what point you are supposed to be making. You talk about Brits in the third person as though they are just one big amalgam. AJ seems pretty popular amongst both 'casuals' and hardcore fans who while not necessarily seeing a great deal of depth yet other than his ability to spark people out , respect his honesty and respect for boxing. It's nice to have a guy without a big mouth but he is never going to make the big headlines Guys like Fury, Haye, Mayweather etc do because his whole persona is built around avoiding controversy which the other guys feed on.

[Memphis]

Its easy to dislike AJ. He's a right big good looking rich bastard.

This fight and the build up to it is going to be epic. Ross will be back slagging off Joshua at every opportunity and making it all about Fury. Lyle will be firmly in Wlad's corner fending off the consensus that says Wlad is going byebyes.

I cant wait as it heats up.

I've always said that Joshua wins the fight, but he'll be there to be hit so Wlad has a window to get his offence going.

[erics44]

those saying AJ comes across like this and that? common dudes, most of you lot would come across as cocks if interviewed on national TV

and how can you not like him? 18 fights 18 KOs, don't we watch boxing to watch fighters who get in the ring and smash people in the face really hard

[Primo Carnera]

And the answer is I don't know but I don't dislike him.


It maybe that I'll never get behind a fighter again like I did Benn and Lewis back in the day.

Maybe it's because they're all multi millionaires after a handful of fights these days without proving their pedigree.

I hate the modern footballer too

But admittedly it's not their fault.

AJ win and then Bellew will blow him out inside of two rounds at Goodison Park

I know what you mean about being multi millionaires without proving themselves or even being any good. That's why I can't take to the likes of Eubank Jr. BJS, Khan etc.
I personally don't put AJ in their bracket, but each to their own. It just surprises me.

I too would not put AJ in their bracket yet either. Khan has faced a lot sterner opposition than AJ and whilst he has frittered away the tail end of his career he fought his way to where he is love him or hate him. BJS again whilst not really having the portfolio he should have is a very gifted boxer, way more in his arsenal than AJ will probably ever have and that's not knocking Joshua it's just a fact. I don't really get what point you are supposed to be making. You talk about Brits in the third person as though they are just one big amalgam. AJ seems pretty popular amongst both 'casuals' and hardcore fans who while not necessarily seeing a great deal of depth yet other than his ability to spark people out , respect his honesty and respect for boxing. It's nice to have a guy without a big mouth but he is never going to make the big headlines Guys like Fury, Haye, Mayweather etc do because his whole persona is built around avoiding controversy which the other guys feed on.

My point is that AJ is going out and doing what he is supposed to do (and in some style), whereas Khan, BJS, Eubank Jr. want all the recognition and Money while doing literally fuck all.
I also dispute that Khan has fought his way to where he is. Many years ago , he beat Maidana, and that's it. BJS and Eubank the same. BJS beat Andy Lee, Eubank has beaten nobody.
AJ has dispatched of a World Champion by early KO to gain his title, Molina (who gave the other Champion a much harder time of it) and Brezeale , who arguably would give almost any other HW on the planet a pretty good fight, and all by KO.
It's not his fault that he hasn't been tested, it's not like he's ducked anyone after all.
I totally get the Hearn/Matchroom/Sky golden bollocks resentment that people would have, but again , it's not his fault.
And while he won't get the headlines Fury, Haye and Mayweather get , with the exception of Mayweather , I bet the others, (and just about every other Boxer on the planet) would swap Bank Balances with him.

[Beanz]

And the answer is I don't know but I don't dislike him.


It maybe that I'll never get behind a fighter again like I did Benn and Lewis back in the day.

Maybe it's because they're all multi millionaires after a handful of fights these days without proving their pedigree.

I hate the modern footballer too

But admittedly it's not their fault.

AJ win and then Bellew will blow him out inside of two rounds at Goodison Park

I know what you mean about being multi millionaires without proving themselves or even being any good. That's why I can't take to the likes of Eubank Jr. BJS, Khan etc.
I personally don't put AJ in their bracket, but each to their own. It just surprises me.

I too would not put AJ in their bracket yet either. Khan has faced a lot sterner opposition than AJ and whilst he has frittered away the tail end of his career he fought his way to where he is love him or hate him. BJS again whilst not really having the portfolio he should have is a very gifted boxer, way more in his arsenal than AJ will probably ever have and that's not knocking Joshua it's just a fact. I don't really get what point you are supposed to be making. You talk about Brits in the third person as though they are just one big amalgam. AJ seems pretty popular amongst both 'casuals' and hardcore fans who while not necessarily seeing a great deal of depth yet other than his ability to spark people out , respect his honesty and respect for boxing. It's nice to have a guy without a big mouth but he is never going to make the big headlines Guys like Fury, Haye, Mayweather etc do because his whole persona is built around avoiding controversy which the other guys feed on.

My point is that AJ is going out and doing what he is supposed to do (and in some style), whereas Khan, BJS, Eubank Jr. want all the recognition and Money while doing literally fuck all.
I also dispute that Khan has fought his way to where he is. Many years ago , he beat Maidana, and that's it. BJS and Eubank the same. BJS beat Andy Lee, Eubank has beaten nobody.
AJ has dispatched of a World Champion by early KO to gain his title, Molina (who gave the other Champion a much harder time of it) and Brezeale , who arguably would give almost any other HW on the planet a pretty good fight, and all by KO.
It's not his fault that he hasn't been tested, it's not like he's ducked anyone after all.
I totally get the Hearn/Matchroom/Sky golden bollocks resentment that people would have, but again , it's not his fault.
And while he won't get the headlines Fury, Haye and Mayweather get , with the exception of Mayweather , I bet the others, (and just about every other Boxer on the planet) would swap Bank Balances with him.

Ha! the hate is strong Khan does not fall into the category of being "a multi millionaire without proving themselves or being any good." Igonore the fact that he was a very gifted Olympic silver medal winner and you still have to give him more credit for more than beating Maidana. You almost have to bend over backwards not to. After being poleaxed by Prescott he won the right to contend for the WBA belt by stopping Fagan and Barrera, He then beat Kotlenik to win the strap he then defended it in a consecutive run against Salita, Malinaggi,Maidana,Mckloskey,Judah then arguably beat Peterson and was robbed and then stepped into the Lions den with Garcia. Still not proved anything in your eyes? He then beats Molina, Diaz, Collazo, puts on a masterclass against Alexander then beats Algerieri before getting sparked again by a much bigger Ginger numbnutts who until the stoppage was made to like pretty inferior in boxing ability.


I think Khan has much more than f**k all. He may not be an ATG but Loathe him or Laugh at him he has a not too shabby record and has a pretty good career to look back on and be proud of.

[sanatogen]

And the answer is I don't know but I don't dislike him.


It maybe that I'll never get behind a fighter again like I did Benn and Lewis back in the day.

Maybe it's because they're all multi millionaires after a handful of fights these days without proving their pedigree.

I hate the modern footballer too

But admittedly it's not their fault.

AJ win and then Bellew will blow him out inside of two rounds at Goodison Park

I know what you mean about being multi millionaires without proving themselves or even being any good. That's why I can't take to the likes of Eubank Jr. BJS, Khan etc.
I personally don't put AJ in their bracket, but each to their own. It just surprises me.

I too would not put AJ in their bracket yet either. Khan has faced a lot sterner opposition than AJ and whilst he has frittered away the tail end of his career he fought his way to where he is love him or hate him. BJS again whilst not really having the portfolio he should have is a very gifted boxer, way more in his arsenal than AJ will probably ever have and that's not knocking Joshua it's just a fact. I don't really get what point you are supposed to be making. You talk about Brits in the third person as though they are just one big amalgam. AJ seems pretty popular amongst both 'casuals' and hardcore fans who while not necessarily seeing a great deal of depth yet other than his ability to spark people out , respect his honesty and respect for boxing. It's nice to have a guy without a big mouth but he is never going to make the big headlines Guys like Fury, Haye, Mayweather etc do because his whole persona is built around avoiding controversy which the other guys feed on.

My point is that AJ is going out and doing what he is supposed to do (and in some style), whereas Khan, BJS, Eubank Jr. want all the recognition and Money while doing literally fuck all.
I also dispute that Khan has fought his way to where he is. Many years ago , he beat Maidana, and that's it. BJS and Eubank the same. BJS beat Andy Lee, Eubank has beaten nobody.
AJ has dispatched of a World Champion by early KO to gain his title, Molina (who gave the other Champion a much harder time of it) and Brezeale , who arguably would give almost any other HW on the planet a pretty good fight, and all by KO.
It's not his fault that he hasn't been tested, it's not like he's ducked anyone after all.
I totally get the Hearn/Matchroom/Sky golden bollocks resentment that people would have, but again , it's not his fault.
And while he won't get the headlines Fury, Haye and Mayweather get , with the exception of Mayweather , I bet the others, (and just about every other Boxer on the planet) would swap Bank Balances with him.

He comes across very well in the media. I'll take him more seriously when he's fought someone of substance.

Right now, he's a world champion by fighting boxings equivalent of a tomato can and defending against another tomato can.

At least Whyte gave him something to chew on in the early rounds and Joshua recovered. You know, someone who actually punches back.

Right now he's not that good that no one can stand up to him. This isn't another brief Mike Tyson era. There are fighters out there who we know can stand up, he hasn't been allowed to fight them yet.

Sod Eubank Jnr who I'd guess more and more people are getting pissed off with his little circus. Maybe oneday he'll get serious and boxing fans will appreciate him.

[Master]

I am a little surprised at how many either don't like AJ or would want to dislike him.
Maybe it's because of Eddie Hearn, or maybe because he's champ but we don't know how good he is.
I know he's not proved much yet, but I don't think that's his fault.
I would've thought the Brits would be all over him. After all, what's not to like?

I think AJ has had it relatively easy and the path to the world title has been without too many issues. To win a world title should mean the fighter going at least to points before they become champion.

[Primo Carnera]

I am a little surprised at how many either don't like AJ or would want to dislike him.
Maybe it's because of Eddie Hearn, or maybe because he's champ but we don't know how good he is.
I know he's not proved much yet, but I don't think that's his fault.
I would've thought the Brits would be all over him. After all, what's not to like?

I think AJ has had it relatively easy and the path to the world title has been without too many issues. To win a world title should mean the fighter going at least to points before they become champion.

What, so you equate the longer a fight goes as to how tough a fight is? So Tyson Fury went to points absorbing an average of 4 punches a round, whereas someone could have a tough fight that went 8 or 9 rounds and had moments when they were in deep water and came out the other end.
you need to get into your head that AJ has a lot of power and this is the heavyweights. He may NEVER go 12 rounds! I'm not saying he is gonna knock everybody out, he may get KO'd or stopped himself.
Does he need to extend a fight so it goes the distance, just so people can feel he is progressing?
Usually when people use this line of critique, it's so that when they eventually do go the distance, people can have something to pick holes in, which is a bit negative imo.
for the record, I reckon he'll do 12 rounds comfortably, but we may never find out.

[Master]

I am a little surprised at how many either don't like AJ or would want to dislike him.
Maybe it's because of Eddie Hearn, or maybe because he's champ but we don't know how good he is.
I know he's not proved much yet, but I don't think that's his fault.
I would've thought the Brits would be all over him. After all, what's not to like?

I think AJ has had it relatively easy and the path to the world title has been without too many issues. To win a world title should mean the fighter going at least to points before they become champion.

What, so you equate the longer a fight goes as to how tough a fight is? So Tyson Fury went to points absorbing an average of 4 punches a round, whereas someone could have a tough fight that went 8 or 9 rounds and had moments when they were in deep water and came out the other end.
you need to get into your head that AJ has a lot of power and this is the heavyweights. He may NEVER go 12 rounds! I'm not saying he is gonna knock everybody out, he may get KO'd or stopped himself.
Does he need to extend a fight so it goes the distance, just so people can feel he is progressing?
Usually when people use this line of critique, it's so that when they eventually do go the distance, people can have something to pick holes in, which is a bit negative imo.
for the record, I reckon he'll do 12 rounds comfortably, but we may never find out.

I think AJ can do 12 rounds comfortably because he can fight at a high pace but just seems unnatural that we have a heavyweight champion that has never gone the distance. The fact that he has Eddie Hearn (Simon Cowell of boxing) smiling in the background makes it even more intolerable.