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    Default Re: Why are PEDs viewed differentlt in boxing than say baseball?

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    No Holyfield was not officially caught but that's what I'm saying. Bonds & Clements never failed a test either but have remained out of baseball's hall thus far.
    I am sure Bonds and Clements can sue then.

    In Bonds' case the growth in body mass was HUGE, in comparison with earlier in his career. Hell.... his head alone probably doubled in size.

    In addition, Bonds went from being a fast, nimble hitter for average.... to a behemoth home run hitter. It's all way too suspicious.

    Also it was in an era when lots of baseball players were 'roiding.

    Most telling was the change in Bonds' demeanor. He went from being somewhat friendly and approachable to being this surly dude, which everyone in baseball hated.

    Personally, I'd hold him out of the HOF as long as possible.

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    Default Re: Why are PEDs viewed differentlt in boxing than say baseball?

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
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    No Holyfield was not officially caught but that's what I'm saying. Bonds & Clements never failed a test either but have remained out of baseball's hall thus far.
    I am sure Bonds and Clements can sue then.

    In Bonds' case the growth in body mass was HUGE, in comparison with earlier in his career. Hell.... his head alone probably doubled in size.

    In addition, Bonds went from being a fast, nimble hitter for average.... to a behemoth home run hitter. It's all way too suspicious.

    Also it was in an era when lots of baseball players were 'roiding.

    Most telling was the change in Bonds' demeanor. He went from being somewhat friendly and approachable to being this surly dude, which everyone in baseball hated.

    Personally, I'd hold him out of the HOF as long as possible.
    His head grew enormously. He looked like his bobblehead doll. I'm sure I read his cap size went up a couple of numbers. Lots of guys roided for a couple of years till they got a huge guaranteed contract and then stopped roiding the minute they signed it and their numbers immediately went to shit. Jason Giambi comes to mind.

    Steroid use should be treated much more severely in boxing because in baseball you're hitting a ball, in boxing you're hitting somebody else's head. The thing is with boxing the people running it are interested in making money first and the sport aspect of it comes well down the list. If PEDs are meaning big ticket/PPV sellers are able to stay around for more fights then nobody gives a fuck about how they're doing it and nobody wants to catch them. If Vegas really wanted they could have brought in strong random testing protocols last century but they're only interested in making money so they don't.

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    Default Re: Why are PEDs viewed differentlt in boxing than say baseball?

    Simple reason they are viewed differently is because peoples' lives are on the line in boxing....not so with baseball.


    Also with Bonds I don't think it was JUST steroids, I think that's part of it, but human growth hormone is another part altogether and guys have been dabbling in that for a long time.


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    Default Re: Why are PEDs viewed differentlt in boxing than say baseball?

    I think @J_Undisputed hit the nail on the head. Excellent post.

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    Default Re: Why are PEDs viewed differentlt in boxing than say baseball?

    Guys in massively popular sports with constant commercial exposure actually face consequences by the brain trust, sponsors, officials and more so in their bank account. Boxers get a slap on the wrist, more often title shots and lets face it, boxing has always been the red headed step child in the bigger sports world. The McQuire and Sosa duel and chasing records of 'Americana' legends surpassed the game at times. It was literally all over the place daily. Also power hitters like Bonds and Clemens are on a more personal stage with fans. The entire at-bat for a DH and deep ball threat is a prolonged mind game, drawn out theater in the game. As a former big follower of the game, baseball nerds LOVE to keep and track stats that start soaring! And in fairness Holyfield never 'failed' a test either .

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    Default Re: Why are PEDs viewed differentlt in boxing than say baseball?

    I remember that I did read an article a while back about a guy who testified that Bond did admit doping and did it in front of him. Apparently that he was doing a couple of stuff, including a special creme and some drops he had to put under his tongue at some very precise moment, can't remember who the guy was though.
    As for the whole doping difference between baseball and boxing, it comes from a very simple fact: Baseball is ONE organisation where everybody are under the same set of rules, more or less, where boxing is SOOOO different from a place to another; every states/countries have their very own regulations, way to do things, doping politics, which makes it much more difficult to control; some commissions seem to care, while some other seem to care more or less.
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    Default Re: Why are PEDs viewed differentlt in boxing than say baseball?

    Simple really boxing is a sport , Baseball is a rip off of the children / women's game "Rounder's" practiced since Tudor times in England .

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