How many losses should Mayweather have on his record?

[TitoFan]

I have noticed a change since near the end of last year. More and more top guys are starting to fight one another. Sure the fights might not always live up to the hype but the fact that they are now fighting each other can only be a positive for the sport. We are only in April and have already been treated to a number of quality match ups with many more already scheduled. There are numerous reasons why this has started to occur but one reason could be that Floyd is no longer holding everything up and no ones waiting around on the golden ticket. If Floyd isn't interested in coming back to face a top challenge like GGG, Thurman etc then don't wish to see him back.

Agreed with everything you said, except for the Floyd-GGG part. Personally, I've had enough of these boxing circuses. Canelo stalking around Teofilo Stevenson style before lowering the boom on poor little Khan..... GGG doing the same thing to Brook.... Canelo avoiding GGG at 160, but somehow miraculously jumping to 165 to fight JCC Jr...... guys calling out famous names 2 or 3 divisions underneath them. No... I don't wish to see Floyd back either except for a genuinely competitive fight. But.... with someone his own size.

[Alpha]

I have noticed a change since near the end of last year. More and more top guys are starting to fight one another. Sure the fights might not always live up to the hype but the fact that they are now fighting each other can only be a positive for the sport. We are only in April and have already been treated to a number of quality match ups with many more already scheduled. There are numerous reasons why this has started to occur but one reason could be that Floyd is no longer holding everything up and no ones waiting around on the golden ticket. If Floyd isn't interested in coming back to face a top challenge like GGG, Thurman etc then don't wish to see him back.

Agreed with everything you said, except for the Floyd-GGG part. Personally, I've had enough of these boxing circuses. Canelo stalking around Teofilo Stevenson style before lowering the boom on poor little Khan..... GGG doing the same thing to Brook.... Canelo avoiding GGG at 160, but somehow miraculously jumping to 165 to fight JCC Jr...... guys calling out famous names 2 or 3 divisions underneath them. No... I don't wish to see Floyd back either except for a genuinely competitive fight. But.... with someone his own size.

I get what your say and I agree to a degree. Mayweather and his fans like to claim he is TBE. Other greats have started their careers at lower weights than Floyd and had success at 160. GGG did also say he would meet Floyd at 154. That fight seems like the only worthy fight he should return for in my opinion. Although I would accept Thurman or the Brook/ Spence winner. There are definitely competitive fights like Lara, Andrade etc but I don't think they are on a big enough stage yet.

[ruthless rocco]

Which other "greats" started their careers at a lower weight than Mayweather and had sucess at middleweight?

[Primo Carnera]

Which other "greats" started their careers at a lower weight than Mayweather and had sucess at middleweight?

I don't know the answer, because I never posted that. But one serious question for you? Obviously you're a big Fan of Floyd's Rocco, my question is , Do you want to see him fight again, and if so, Who against?
the reason I ask this is I don't believe Floyd's fans particularly want to see him fight, I don't think Floyd particularly wants to fight, so why the fuck does everybody try to make these ridiculous match ups?

[ruthless rocco]

Which other "greats" started their careers at a lower weight than Mayweather and had sucess at middleweight?

I don't know the answer, because I never posted that. But one serious question for you? Obviously you're a big Fan of Floyd's Rocco, my question is , Do you want to see him fight again, and if so, Who against?
the reason I ask this is I don't believe Floyd's fans particularly want to see him fight, I don't think Floyd particularly wants to fight, so why the fuck does everybody try to make these ridiculous match ups?

I'd love to see Floyd fight McGregor.

Floyd is pretty much done with boxing. I believe he's gone on record as saying that he doesn't enjoy the sport, and hasn't for some time. He is however, in the very unusual position to be able to profit from his boxing skill, talent for self promotion, and the current fixation on boxing vs UFC. He can make himself a shit tonne of money by promoting a mega fight against McGregor--a man who has followed Mayweather's blueprint for self promotion.

Now, boxing fans are mad a Floyd for not fighting all the biggest and heaviest fighters, or the current crop of top prospects. But he's not interested in boxing, or pleasing fans. He's put his health and life on the line for over 20 years of professional prize fighting, and now he just wants to make money. He doesn't want to take any more damage to his brain or body simply for your entertainment. He doesn't want to make other men (management, promoters, gamblers, etc...) a bunch of money by being beat up. He just wants to make money. Which is completely sensible -- but so many people have bought into Floyd's "Money" Mayweather persona, that they hate any, and everything he does.

What Floyd understands, and what many many boxing fans don't, is that prize fighting is about money. Fighters fight for money. Not glory, not to have the picture on the green belt, not to have an amazing set of statistics. Money.

[TitoFan]

I'd love to see Floyd fight McGregor.

Floyd is pretty much done with boxing. I believe he's gone on record as saying that he doesn't enjoy the sport, and hasn't for some time.

I believe Floyd can do whatever he wants. As long as he doesn't expect the 49 to be changed to a 50.

[Master]

Which other "greats" started their careers at a lower weight than Mayweather and had sucess at middleweight?

I don't know the answer, because I never posted that. But one serious question for you? Obviously you're a big Fan of Floyd's Rocco, my question is , Do you want to see him fight again, and if so, Who against?
the reason I ask this is I don't believe Floyd's fans particularly want to see him fight, I don't think Floyd particularly wants to fight, so why the fuck does everybody try to make these ridiculous match ups?

I'd love to see Floyd fight McGregor.

Floyd is pretty much done with boxing. I believe he's gone on record as saying that he doesn't enjoy the sport, and hasn't for some time. He is however, in the very unusual position to be able to profit from his boxing skill, talent for self promotion, and the current fixation on boxing vs UFC. He can make himself a shit tonne of money by promoting a mega fight against McGregor--a man who has followed Mayweather's blueprint for self promotion.

Now, boxing fans are mad a Floyd for not fighting all the biggest and heaviest fighters, or the current crop of top prospects. But he's not interested in boxing, or pleasing fans. He's put his health and life on the line for over 20 years of professional prize fighting, and now he just wants to make money. He doesn't want to take any more damage to his brain or body simply for your entertainment. He doesn't want to make other men (management, promoters, gamblers, etc...) a bunch of money by being beat up. He just wants to make money. Which is completely sensible -- but so many people have bought into Floyd's "Money" Mayweather persona, that they hate any, and everything he does.

What Floyd understands, and what many many boxing fans don't, is that prize fighting is about money. Fighters fight for money. Not glory, not to have the picture on the green belt, not to have an amazing set of statistics. Money.

I am sure you would love to see Floyd fight McGregor a novice boxer. Joke.

Floyd was pretty much done with boxing when he signed that fat contract picking and choosing his opponents.

Boxing fans know that it is a business but they are disappointed at Floyd's pretence that he is an ATG.

[Primo Carnera]

Which other "greats" started their careers at a lower weight than Mayweather and had sucess at middleweight?

I don't know the answer, because I never posted that. But one serious question for you? Obviously you're a big Fan of Floyd's Rocco, my question is , Do you want to see him fight again, and if so, Who against?
the reason I ask this is I don't believe Floyd's fans particularly want to see him fight, I don't think Floyd particularly wants to fight, so why the fuck does everybody try to make these ridiculous match ups?

I'd love to see Floyd fight McGregor.

Floyd is pretty much done with boxing. I believe he's gone on record as saying that he doesn't enjoy the sport, and hasn't for some time. He is however, in the very unusual position to be able to profit from his boxing skill, talent for self promotion, and the current fixation on boxing vs UFC. He can make himself a shit tonne of money by promoting a mega fight against McGregor--a man who has followed Mayweather's blueprint for self promotion.

Now, boxing fans are mad a Floyd for not fighting all the biggest and heaviest fighters, or the current crop of top prospects. But he's not interested in boxing, or pleasing fans. He's put his health and life on the line for over 20 years of professional prize fighting, and now he just wants to make money. He doesn't want to take any more damage to his brain or body simply for your entertainment. He doesn't want to make other men (management, promoters, gamblers, etc...) a bunch of money by being beat up. He just wants to make money. Which is completely sensible -- but so many people have bought into Floyd's "Money" Mayweather persona, that they hate any, and everything he does.

What Floyd understands, and what many many boxing fans don't, is that prize fighting is about money. Fighters fight for money. Not glory, not to have the picture on the green belt, not to have an amazing set of statistics. Money.

I pretty much agree with every word you said, and I gave your post a like................ EXCEPT for the first sentence.
Why would you "Love to see Mayweather fight MacGregor"? I'm stumped if I'm honest.
I think the World has gone stone cold fucking crazy! I don't know why anyone with half a brain would want to actually see that fight. Now, I know the MMA fans would want to see it, and that frankly proves what I said about anyone with half a brain, but a boxing fan who knows everything there is to know about Floyd? Surely not for fucks sake.
We all know if this happens, it's strictly Boxing , no half and half bullshit. Let's be fair, MacGregor probably wouldn't even be a good enough boxer to become Irish Champion, definitely not British level, yet in his first Pro fight under Queensbury rules, we expect him to make a fight of it against a guy who until he retired almost 2 years ago, was undisputed p4p #1 in the World?
This is getting ridiculous!
I respect Mayweather, without being a big, for want of a better word, "Flomo", and I would never want to see him in a ring again ever! If I was a mega fan, that's the last thing I would want.

[Alpha]

Floyd is welcome to fight for money and earn millions. All power to him. When he comes out saying GGG would be easy work and he would do this and that and that he's TBE that's where the problem starts. Talk is cheap.

[ruthless rocco]

Which other "greats" started their careers at a lower weight than Mayweather and had sucess at middleweight?

I don't know the answer, because I never posted that. But one serious question for you? Obviously you're a big Fan of Floyd's Rocco, my question is , Do you want to see him fight again, and if so, Who against?
the reason I ask this is I don't believe Floyd's fans particularly want to see him fight, I don't think Floyd particularly wants to fight, so why the fuck does everybody try to make these ridiculous match ups?

I'd love to see Floyd fight McGregor.

Floyd is pretty much done with boxing. I believe he's gone on record as saying that he doesn't enjoy the sport, and hasn't for some time. He is however, in the very unusual position to be able to profit from his boxing skill, talent for self promotion, and the current fixation on boxing vs UFC. He can make himself a shit tonne of money by promoting a mega fight against McGregor--a man who has followed Mayweather's blueprint for self promotion.

Now, boxing fans are mad a Floyd for not fighting all the biggest and heaviest fighters, or the current crop of top prospects. But he's not interested in boxing, or pleasing fans. He's put his health and life on the line for over 20 years of professional prize fighting, and now he just wants to make money. He doesn't want to take any more damage to his brain or body simply for your entertainment. He doesn't want to make other men (management, promoters, gamblers, etc...) a bunch of money by being beat up. He just wants to make money. Which is completely sensible -- but so many people have bought into Floyd's "Money" Mayweather persona, that they hate any, and everything he does.

What Floyd understands, and what many many boxing fans don't, is that prize fighting is about money. Fighters fight for money. Not glory, not to have the picture on the green belt, not to have an amazing set of statistics. Money.

I pretty much agree with every word you said, and I gave your post a like................ EXCEPT for the first sentence.
Why would you "Love to see Mayweather fight MacGregor"? I'm stumped if I'm honest.
I think the World has gone stone cold fucking crazy! I don't know why anyone with half a brain would want to actually see that fight. Now, I know the MMA fans would want to see it, and that frankly proves what I said about anyone with half a brain, but a boxing fan who knows everything there is to know about Floyd? Surely not for fucks sake.
We all know if this happens, it's strictly Boxing , no half and half bullshit. Let's be fair, MacGregor probably wouldn't even be a good enough boxer to become Irish Champion, definitely not British level, yet in his first Pro fight under Queensbury rules, we expect him to make a fight of it against a guy who until he retired almost 2 years ago, was undisputed p4p #1 in the World?
This is getting ridiculous!
I respect Mayweather, without being a big, for want of a better word, "Flomo", and I would never want to see him in a ring again ever! If I was a mega fan, that's the last thing I would want.

Because I love watching two ego maniacs fights knowing one will likely get destroyed and will have to live in shame for their failure.

[erics44]

I don't like Mayweather, I think you have to be as sporting in victory as you are in defeat

I think to be successful to any level the talent has to be there but there is also a certain amount of good fortune necessary

to rise to the level he rose to, enjoy it yes, but recognise the hand you have been dealt

[Alpha]

Which other "greats" started their careers at a lower weight than Mayweather and had sucess at middleweight?

Duran, Armstrong. Other guys like Gavilan and Napoles started in lower weight divisions than Mayweather started and although they weren't successful against the middleweight champ at least they had the balls to challenge themselves.

[Master]

Which other "greats" started their careers at a lower weight than Mayweather and had sucess at middleweight?

Duran, Armstrong. Other guys like Gavilan and Napoles started in lower weight divisions than Mayweather started and although they weren't successful against the middleweight champ at least they had the balls to challenge themselves.

Sugar Ray Leonard must be added to the list.

[Alpha]

Which other "greats" started their careers at a lower weight than Mayweather and had sucess at middleweight?

Duran, Armstrong. Other guys like Gavilan and Napoles started in lower weight divisions than Mayweather started and although they weren't successful against the middleweight champ at least they had the balls to challenge themselves.

Sugar Ray Leonard must be added to the list.

If we are talking notable welters (long reigning champs like Mayweather is considered) then there are even more to add. Many of the best welters have challenged the middleweight champ throughout history.

[Master]

Which other "greats" started their careers at a lower weight than Mayweather and had sucess at middleweight?

Duran, Armstrong. Other guys like Gavilan and Napoles started in lower weight divisions than Mayweather started and although they weren't successful against the middleweight champ at least they had the balls to challenge themselves.

Sugar Ray Leonard must be added to the list.

If we are talking notable welters (long reigning champs like Mayweather is considered) then there are even more to add. Many of the best welters have challenged the middleweight champ throughout history.

Yet the self proclaimed ATG takes on Berto.